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WE'RE BACK breaking down episodes! The fate of #Neggie hangs in the balance! We dissect the state of #TWD on the whole, whilst drilling down key examples: including some #SpookyBetaShit in the case of #FatherGabriel!
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WELCOME BACK
- While TWD/FearTWD was on hiatus: Interviews with Christine Evangelista and Bailey Gavulic, DAVE REACTS (to this episode), and our Jackbox Games Charity Livestream.
- Dave receives holiday cards from Rachael, Katy , and Yvette.
- Sherrandy’s Christmas gifts: art by @Carinae_D from Katy & art by Kirk Manley from Aliza.
INITIAL FEELINGS
- Can take a few watches to feel the impact of the episode.
- Finality looms on the horizon.
- Aliza: Foreboding and Frustration.
- Bridget: Excited and Emotional.
- Jasmine is a SQUAWKING DEAD TWD Coverage virgin! "WE’RE ALL FRIENDS! WE’RE ALL FRIENDS!"
- Jasmine: Satisfied by Meridian, Disappointed by Alden’s death, Excited and Nervous about The Commonwealth.
- Contrast: Lame Commonwealth versus Indomitable Reapers.
- Sherrandy: Loves Meridian, Meh on Alexandria Safe-Zone, Shoe-horned Ending (with the time jump).
SAY HELLO TO MY HWACHA
- You use what you have.
- Experts in Munitions, those crafty Reapers.
- Undoubted Reaper maintenance reminds us of Aliza’s Secret Santa gift to Merle Dixon (rubbin’ his nub)!
- Maggie Rhee, Reaper Fisher, and her Nutcruncher!
POST-APOCALYPTIC PARENTING
- Gracie’s inability to protect herself: is Aaron creating a Sam Anderson?
- Sherrandy calls for a Tia Rosita Espinosa training session.
- Hope Bennett (The Walking Dead: World Beyond) eventually learns to fight, so why not Gracie?
- Alexandria was supposed to be a safe-haven.
- Gracie being sheltered put everyone in danger, more than once.
- Will Aaron suffer the same fate as Jessie Anderson?
- Gracie’s Savior genetics!
- Daryl Dixon and Rosita taking steps to protect the kids.
- With Alden’s expiration, who will take care of Baby Adam?
- Parallel to John Dorie’s death on Fear the Walking Dead.
- Jack of all trades or specialist in one?
- Aaron to the rescue!
- Worried Aaron would end up like Bob Stookey in the basement of Father Gabriel’s church’s food bank.
- Horror is back! Walkers are still dangerous!
- Aaron and Lydia come full circle.
THE LAST ROSE OF ALDEN
- Maggie’s emotions return, full force, upon finding Alden.
- Did Alden’s death fall flat? Is it because of how long it was left hanging for viewers?
- An off-screen death lessens the impact, whether you wait for the episode or binge it.
- Alden’s lack of juices!
- Just say "No" to Walker Sherrandy!
WELL DING DING!
- Alex Meraz’s excellent work as Reaper Carver.
- 3 on 1: Carver wipes the floor with Maggie, Negan, and Elijah.
- Jasmine’s Justice for The Reapers: The scenes with Leah Shaw and Daryl may have made he Reapers seem less threatening, but this scene was redeeming.
- Daryl tries not to kill anymore Reapers after his fight with Reaper Austin.
- #CallMeGabriel
- Sherrandy promotes the #Neggie #HateBang.
- Leah takes over Pope’s vendetta: they have no reason to think they can lose.
- Daryl’s white lies about his family demolished Leah’s trust in him.
- Leah’s three chances to choose another path led to demise of The Reapers.
- Negan and Leah parallels.
- Maggie’s rage as she takes out the last of The Reapers.
- Maggie remembers her campfire talk with Negan from 11x07.
- It was Agatha All Along!
- Leah is an anchor that bought the Reapers more time.
- Will we get a Negan & Leah team-up? Socks on?
- Could Maggie be hiding Negan and Leah at The Hilltop 6 months later?
- All of the Meridian Wardens died because of the Reapers, besides Elijah.
- Frustrations with Elijah’s recklessness
- Dave’s Story Time: Like Elijah his temper got the best of him at his friend’s Wedding Rehearsal Dinner.
- People should know better than to be reckless 12 years into the Zombie Apocalypse.
- Will we ever know why Pope marked Maggie?
TWO PRIESTS, ONE CHURCH
- The evolution of Father Gabriel Stokes.
- "Christ promised the resurrection of the dead, I just thought he had something different plan in mind" ~Hershel Greene.
- Gabriel sees Reaper Mancea as a reflection of himself.
- Would our perception have changed had we started the story from the perspective of The Reapers?
- Callback: Gabriel takes off his collar at the campfire with Daryl, just like he did in 5x10, Them, after eating the dogs.
- Aliza: Is he angry, not only at Mancea and The Reapers, but at himself and God?
- Would Mancea have been spared Gabriel's wrath had Reaper Jenson’s sniper rifle not fired in that moment?
- The Angel Gabriel is God’s messenger in the Bible.
- Would Mancea have just slaughtered Gabriel had Gabriel spared him?
- On Doubt: Aliza shares a conversation she had with her pastor.
- Was Mancea God’s sacrificial lamb/scapegoat?
- One more: Gabriel’s exhausted look just before The Commonwealth arrives.
- Gabriel’s & Daryl’s crisis of faith.
- But Maggie, was the trip to Meridian really about the food?
HOME SWEET HILLTOP
- Daryl & Maggie are at odds in both The Reapers arc and the six-months-later-time-jump, at the end of this episode: In contrast to their scene with Jesus Paul Rovia at the end of All Out War.
- Has Daryl found a way forward that Maggie cannot get behind?
- Is Maggie perhaps afraid to join The Commonwealth because of her failed endeavors with Georgie?
- The Civic Republic and The Commonwealth are thriving while smaller communities like Alexandria falter.
- Even in Commonwealth Trooper uniform, Daryl refuses to cut his hair months later.
- Lance Hornsby's attire provided by L.L. Bean
- Does/Will The Commonwealth approach other communities like they did Alexandria?
- Did The Hilltop pool supplies from Alexandria & Oceanside?
- Where is Luke?
- Could the six-month time-jump be the cliffhanger in Season 11B, going into 11C?
- Aliza describing Juanita Princess Sanchez’s flat/sad hair and what it might mean (referencing Linda Peck Athens’ depiction of her)
- Don’t give Judith Grimes to Carol Peletier!
- The Commonwealth’s job-assignments
AN APPLE A DAY KEEPS THE CARYL AWAY
- The Reunion of Daryl and Connie.
- Jasmine, "Connie and Daryl are in the texting phase"
- Aliza, "He dropped his basket for her"
- Lydia is heartbroken upon discovering Negan's absence.
- Aliza: Carol looks happy seeing #Donnie reunite and probably feels relieved that hers and Daryl’s relationship is intact.
- Highlighting (ridiculous) speculation on the Daryl & Carol Spin-off series.
BATTLE BY BLACKBOARDS
- Blackboards in the background during the Reaper Austin & Daryl fight.
- Bibel: Germanic spelling of the word "Bible".
- Black Board number: "Let everything that has breath praise the lord".
- S.T.O.P.:
- Stop as soon as you realize you’re lost
- Think about the situation
- Observe your surroundings
- Plan what to do.
- Lessons in food and wildlife revealing what Ms. Adams was teaching in the zombie apocalypse at Meridian.
- TWD logo in the title sequence is dripping with water.
- Aliza: This episode was "Jam-filled". You mean, like the cakes in Elodie’s Bakery! Right?
NEGAN THE NOMAD
- In response to Negan’s departure and #Neggie’s chances, "But Dave, Absence makes the heart grow fonder."
- Negan did not want to be next after Maggie’s Reaper-killing-spree.
- Negan’s swan song: Will he go out saving Maggie or Hershel Rhee?
- Potential Meet the Saviors spin-off on Tales of The Walking Dead?
- Was Maggie asking Negan’s opinion or permission before her Reaper masacre?
- Some Alexandrians might have chosen Negan over Maggie, due to her absence (and how he ended The Whisperers War).
- Sherrandy: I never thought Negan would hit her, but I thought he might hit it.
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