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Saturday, April 30, 2022

[Episode 188] Season 7, Episode 10 of Fear The Walking Dead, "Mourning Cloak"

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This episode takes time to finally focus on Charlie. Although "Mourning Cloak" is meant to highlight the beginning of the end for her, it might serve as a reawakening for #JuneDorie, who had retreated into herself since #JohnDorie's demise (similar to #AliciaClark). And how do we feel about Howard after this episode?
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  • On February 18th, shortly after AMC released the titles to the latter half of FearTWD's 7th season, Sherrandy recorded her take on what the title Mourning Cloak meant: how accurate was she?
  • The Mourning Cloak butterfly does typically live much longer than the average butterfly (12 months), as opposed to a month or a season, at best.
  • Charlie is the obvious reference, but might the mourning cloak actually be June Dorie, since she has retreated within herself since John Dorie's passing?

  • And how is the mourning cloak more representative of Charlie?
  • Jasmine has always liked Charlie and never cared for Madison Clark or Nick Clark
  • Sherrandy points out that Charlie is one of June’s last connections to John since they had taken care of Charlie in the latter half of Season 4.
  • But what’s the issue with living in Victor Strand’s tower, anyway?

  • June & Charlie took care of one another whilst living with The Vultures after the stadium's collapse.

  • ๐ŸคซWHISPERERS Tier Member Tyler Phillip Cox interviewed Erik Jensen (Dr. Steven Edwards from The Walking Dead), a character who killed another doctor for his own self preservation.
  • Is June in danger after confronting Howard?

  • Is being a doctor in The Walking Dead Universe always a death sentence (Siddiq, Enid, Harlan Carson, Emmett Carson, Caleb Subramanian, Dana from The Kingdom, Dante, Denise Cloyd, Pete Anderson, Hershel Greene, etc.)?

  • Should June & Tomichi Okumura (from TWD) be worried?

  • What is the purpose of Victor keeping butterflies in mason jars?
  • Does Strand relate to the butterflies because they were once one thing and then morphed into something better/more beautiful?
  • ...Or is Strand making potential rangers capture butterflies to haze them as John Dorie Sr. alludes?
  • Could Howard be pulling Victor's strings? Or has he become a man of faith (in Victor's vision) whose faith in Strand might eventually break?
  • Did Howard have children? Or always wanted to? Is that why he fosters this strange, but intimate relationship with Ali Muhammad?
  • Where is Strand? Scouting ahead? Staying overnight?
  • John Dorie Sr. is playing the game well (trying to, perhaps, have Strand's/Howard's ear)!
  • What if PADRE is really The Commonwealth?

    (If you want to see what's inside the PADRE documents, check out our blog covering the episode by the same name, here)
  • Callback: The radio channel Ali tells Charlie to communicate with him on is 4, which is the title of Fear The Walking Dead's 9th episode of Season 5. It's the introduction of Wes and Tess, but the overall theme? Helping others helps (fix) ourselves.

  • In what way might this episode be viewed as "cringe"?
  • Is life worth living if we're living only to survive?
  • What are Arno and The Stalkers looking for and what is their end game?
  • Will we ever see everything that happened during Alicia Clark's time in the bunker?

  • We figure out what the female Stalker refers to as The Pit (the nuclear warhead impact crater). She asks, "Why does Victor keep sending people to the pit?"
  • In the spirit of Beethoven's Ode to Joy (from the last episode, FearTWD 7x09 Follow Me) can peace between all peoples (on this show) be achieved?
  • Did Ali become the butterfly at the close of this episode?

  • Is Charlie really dying and why is it so hard to believe that she is?
  • What will Charlie look like the next time we see her?

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Saturday, April 23, 2022

[Episode 187] Season 7, Episode 9 of Fear The Walking Dead, "Follow Me"

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The #midseasonpremiere kicks off with #AliciaClark's revolution underway, having already sought assistance from Arno (and failed). With that understanding, the show-runners take time to tell us an anthologized story in the process to show her a new way forward: to much polarization from the audience.
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  • Bridget: Always find the silver lining! Loved Paul, loved the Scotland references, and the Alicia Clark focused episode. Along with Rachael, not a fan of her sweaty, fever or Paul's death.
  • Could we be seeing the side effects from the (possibly irradiated) walker blood that splattered all over Alicia in the first half of Season 5?
  • Dave: This episode was a masterpiece. Never fully embraced the hype fans had towards Alicia's character as a hero/bad-ass.
  • Dave: This episode is working through issues with Alicia’s (arrested) character development from prior seasons.
  • Addressing possibly confusion: Alicia trying to get back to her friends on the sub, not the followers she was trying to lead from Theodore Maddox's bunker.
  • But is Alicia truly equipped to be a leader?
  • Bridget explains the way Alicia demonstrated leadership qualities in the back half of Season 3, at Broke Jaw Ranch.
  • Bridget wonders whether Follow Me was all a dream.
  • Paul represents Alicia's hope and optimism.
  • Similarities to The Wizard of Oz: along with a girl in pigtails (albeit, in a gas mask) like the character Dorothy Gale.

  • Has the audience expected Alicia to fill the void Madison Clark left since her departure?
  • Rachael would've preferred more of an ensemble-style (rather than anthology-style) episode, for a mid-season premiere
  • Should they have swapped 7x09 with 7x10 since it contained more cast?
  • ๐ŸŽ–SURVIVORS Tier Member: Jasmine's take, "Hagus ain't so bad!"
  • Rachael: It would be better if this were a stand alone movie, but for an episode in an overall arc, it doesn't move the story along.
  • Dave: It does move the story forward, just not in the way you would've hoped/preferred.
  • Get on with the war, already!
  • Is Alicia actually sick or is it in her head?
  • Sherrandy asks, in the chat: Might her confidence have been shaken from the events of Damage on the Inside (6x07), in that she chose to provide Dakota asylum from Virginia?
  • Bridget felt the opening sequence was surreal and dreamlike.
  • Was Paul's phrasing of the musical instruments as "out of tune" a metaphor for No one's gone until they're gone?
  • What role does luck play in the apocalypse?
  • When was the last time Alicia was actually in a good place?

  • Bridget hopes we continue to actually see Alicia’s character develop over the course of the remaining episodes, rather than squelched by time jumps; however, a montage will suffice.
  • Shoutout to Warren "Wawa" Snipe, who actually played the bagpipes in Paul's final moments on screen (gone too soon!).

  • What good is Paul’s cochlear implant if it's non-operational?
  • Is the little girl in the gas mask a representation of a younger Alicia? ...all of the people waiting to be helped/help her? ...connected to the group that has her mother?
  • Is Ode to Joy, a song that preaches peace between all peoples, a breadcrumb for things to come? Will there even be a war?
  • Sherrandy recommends Immortal Beloved, a movie that depicts Beethoven's struggle with hearing loss.
  • Paul patched the bagpipes with the skin from a walker’s face!

  • After Dave explains the significance of both Paul & Ed Gein (from Damage from the Inside) being two men, gone too soon, that remind Alicia to trust/believe in herselfSherrandy points out Paul was shot in the same spot where Ed was impaled.

  • Dave's Crazy Brain: Might Alicia’s illness be derived from something sci-fi-like contained within walker Senator Vazquez's blood?
  • Was all these events part of Executive Producers Ian Goldberg & Andrew Chambliss' overall roadmap?
  • Parallel: Arno's left hand is shot just like Alicia’s left arm.
  • Spenser Granese (Arno) also played Arlo on Better Call Saul.

  • Now that Alicia is assuming the role of  PADRE, will we ever see its location?
  • What if the people who have Madison are (in the actual) PADRE?
  • ChrisTheBeat, in the chat, asks if Alicia was the one broadcasting PADRE's existence in the surrounding region.
  • Should Alicia lead or should she follow? Dave & Rachael spar on this one.

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