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Wednesday, September 26, 2018

[RECAP] Season 4, Episode 10 of Fear The Walking Dead, "Close Your Eyes"

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We open the episode with a sharp contrast of dark and light: the near pitch blackness of a hallway leading to the bright cubes of light framing the front door window of what was once a family's home. There is no background music: only the slightly muffled sounds of 40 Mph winds and debris hitting the house. As the camera pulls ever-so-slowly away from the door and further into the shadow-engulfed hallway (assisted by the visual direction of Michael Satrazemis), we see Alicia slowly do the same, ambling towards the door from the outside in a way most resembling a walker. She's taking refuge far away from where she left Morgan, wanting to be alone in the middle of an extremely severe hurricane. Between the lack of the usual mood-establishing score (take 5, Danny Bensi and Saunder Jurriaans), the ever-present danger of mother nature, the cinematically deliberate high contrast of the light on the outside and darkness on the inside (courtesy of Adam Suschitzky), and the distinct sound the door makes when Alicia uses her sword to pry the door from its lockset, there's a sense of creepy, pre-heated suspense already baking into this episode.
As she carefully makes her way through the home, she quickly puts down an infected in the kitchen. Carefully moving through the living room entry, she deftly puts down two more: the one to her right, using the sword in her right hand, and the other, to her left, with a souvenir of The Washington Monument she quickly grabs with her left. It was an impressive sequence that easily makes it into the Top-10 walker-kills in The Walking Dead universe.
Again, we have to ask, Who wore it better?
As she lays out the bodies of the formerly undead on the lawn - side-by-side, on display, and exposed to the elements - it's clear that these are the long dead remnants of the family that must've lived in this house as the screen quickly flickers from an overhead view of their bodies to a similarly depicted photo of them when they were alive, on the mantle. Just as we, the viewers, and Alicia both start to feel a human connection to these poor souls, she quickly takes it upon herself to dispose of these feelings by removing all the photographic reminders, placing them in a laundry basket, and frantically tosses them next to the still-exposed bodies. As if the irony wasn't thick enough - the reminders of the family members she's lost along the way, her inability to save them or even the man trapped in the office of AGL Lumber Company - she is forced to nail the front door of the house shut after ruining the lockset; opening a door - or a wound - that can never properly close. As she descends the basement stairs to get a hammer and nails, she's startled by the rapid flooding that is occurring in the basement.
Alicia then hears a noise upstairs and moves to investigate. As the semi-visible, silhouette of her profile moves into the foreground of the camera's view - framing the walls behind her in such a way that makes it feel as though the walls of the house are closing in on her - she enters a bedroom and spies, through its far window, a walker impaled onto a thick tree limb, gingerly swaying around in the intense winds of the hurricane. After hearing another sound, she calls out, threateningly, to whomever is out there that she will kill them if they are found. As if out of a horror film, the blurred image of a small figure scurries past Alicia across the floor - triggering every suspenseful Child's Play/Hitchcockian/The Twilight Zonesque memory in the span of milliseconds - making its way to another bedroom. We, after wiping up the water we just knocked over, and Alicia barely recognize that figure to be Charlie, and Alicia, with flecks of futility in her voice (yet another brick in the the heavy bag of painful memory bricks), but in an attempt to assert herself (nearly unsuccessfully) pleads, "Why are you here?"
No answer.
She faux-rallies and tells her that she can't be here.
Charlie breaks free and makes it to the other bedroom, locking the door behind her. Charlie remains silent. She hasn't spoken a word to anyone since she was discovered with June and The Vultures.
Wanting no part of this house-of-constantly-emerging-painful-reminders, Alicia rushes to the kitchen, quickly  grabs some provisions and a set of car keys, pries open the front door she had only just nailed shut, and makes a bee-line to the car outside. With the storm raging, she frantically attempts to pull the stuck driver's side door that just won't give. As she finally frees the door, simultaneously, a violent gust of wind wildly flings the door wide open, knocking Alicia off her feet and rendering her unconscious.
Suspending our disbelief over Charlie, a 12-year-old, being able to drag around an adult twice her age, Alicia wakes up in the living room of the house. Alicia sprints up the stairs, figuring out what Charlie has done, and confronts Charlie behind the very same door she left her, earlier...
If you were to sum up the one element that flows through all the episodes of this season, the main recurring theme would be admitting the truth, out loud (if only once): Althea's touchstone. As characters on this show own up to their fears, admit their faults and failures, and openly reveal their vulnerabilities, it creates enough of a gap in the universe for healing to rush in or send a message out to the universe that finds its way to the right person in the right moment.
...Alicia's voice/words to Charlie go from almost trembling and being afraid of killing her if she stays to sneering and calling her garbage for taking the life of her brother - someone Charlie knew cared for her. She resolves to split the difference in her tone - almost appearing to solve this dilemma in her head and trying it out - telling her that she hopes she lives to a ripe old age with the ever-present knowledge of how much of an awful garbage person she is and will always be. As Charlie cries, she reaches into her bag and brandishes a handgun - perhaps the very weapon Charlie used to kill Nick after he ended Ennis' life. We're left wondering whether she plans on using it against Alicia, herself, or both.
Alicia attempts to start a fire by breaking some furniture for firewood. In the process, she hears a banging shutter and attempts, but fails, to nail it closed. She looks away in frustration towards the front lawn where she notices the bodies she dragged out, earlier, are now covered with a sheet: undoubtedly by Charlie, while she was knocked out. As she pulls back the sheet covering one of the bodies, revealing a close-up of the face of a girl most likely around her age, the scene cuts to a photo of the same girl, alive, being wiped down by Charlie. Alicia pops in and asks why she bothered covering the bodies and wiping-down the photos.
Charlie, again, doesn't say a word.
Feeling stupid for even expecting an answer, Alicia quickly shifts subject to asking her for help nailing the shutters shut and Charlie agrees to help by way of nodding. I guess resolving to keep Charlie alive - if only to live a full life of guilt over Nick's death and accessory murder of all the stadium dwellers - has its perks. Besides, it's an excellent team-building exercise but, also, in an unsuspecting way, it's a little like a Trojan Horse from beyond the grave, unsuspectingly allowing her to try things out the Madison way.
While trying to nail the shutters closed, successfully nailing down one set, they notice that the sound of their banging is quickly attracting walkers and they decide to head inside and, again, nail the front door shut. Alicia notices the way Charlie's jacket is hanging suspiciously, especially from the pockets, and offers to dry her soaked jacket by the fire, once she has the fire going.
Charlie is frozen.
Alicia bellows, "GIVE ME YOUR JACKET!"
Charlie sees no choice but to slowly peel off her jacket and start to hand it over when Alicia snatches it. Alicia's justifiable anger over her discovery melts into horror over the realization that this might very well be the same gun that was used to kill Nick. Aiming the pistol at Charlie's head, she asks her if she was planning to kill her.
Charlie shakes her head.
Resisting the urge to end her, she puts the gun down and tells her to go, and Charlie races upstairs and locks the door to her room behind her.
"I'm sorry... I'm trying"
Cold, wet, and with her nerves frayed, Alicia attempts to open the flue to finally get a fire going in the house. Struggling with the flue, she notices the incredible amount of soot on the mantle and realizes that it's blocked. Knocking the chimney obstruction loose by poking around, a large bird carcass and debris lands on the firewood. All at once, she understands how this family perished - smoke inhalation - and the symbolism of the what the bird represents: the one she saved as a child - the good Madison saw in her. She can no longer bear the struggle against feeling something for this family, her inability to escape this house house that forces her to confront Charlie and all these painful memories, or her failure in living up to her mother's vision of her best self. Still staring at the bird, she weeps and says to it/her, "I'm sorry... I'm trying."
Charlie is sorting through the photos, now dry, and spots the same walker stuck on the tree limb that Alicia had, earlier. With the chimney unblocked, Alicia attempts to start a fire. As Charlie walks out onto the balcony, in the intense rain and wind, the starter fire Alicia attempts to use to get the fire going goes out in a wild gust of wind. Concerned, she runs upstairs to find the source of the wind to find Charlie's neck nearly in the maw of the impaled walker. Just as the walker grabs Charlie, Alicia is able to pull Charlie back before anything bad can happen to her.
At the dinner table, Alicia explains how she finally understands what Charlie meant to do with her brother's murder weapon. With it confiscated, she had no choice but use the dead to end her life and Alicia refuses to let her get away with taking the easy way out.
In that moment, between Alicia saving her life from a brutal demise and knowing - full well - the kind of garbage person she is for being responsible for so many deaths, including her brother's, Charlie utters her first words in months and it's a question. It's the same question June asks of Strand at the FEMA center and Strand asks Madison at The Stadium (bonus: it's the same question Rick asks of Morgan, after killing the refugee Saviors attempting to flee The Hilltop), "Why did you save me?"
Alicia, hesitating at first, explains that it's not because she forgives her or that she's anything special or worth saving. It's because everyone has to live with the things they've done because, at the end of the day, tallying the sum total of your existence, you still end up as one of the infected when it's over. Living has more value.
As they finally sit down to a hot meal, provided by the fire, Charlie breaks the silence and asks Alicia about her life in California. Alicia gives her a curt response. Charlie, pressing her lightly, asks her specifically about what the beaches in California are like, since she really never got to go. Alicia finds this unusual. Charlie explains that she and her parents had always meant to go the beach in Galveston and, after so long, the day finally arrived. As it happens, it was the same day people started turning. Alicia, not completely reacting to this, clears the table and tells Charlie to get some sleep.
Alicia wakes up to find Charlie isn't on the couch nearby, where she left her, sleeping. She runs upstairs to find her scrambling to gather all the photos she's sorted and tries to stop her by telling her that anyone that ever cared about this family is now dead. Not giving Charlie a chance to actually respond, Alicia tells her to do what she wants, "it won't make you feel better," and storms off downstairs.
Charlie bounds after her, Alicia already trying to start another fire, and asks, "Why do you care," but before Alicia can even respond, a powerful gust of wind puts out what little fire she managed to start while walkers are already stumbling through a nearby window, assisted by the gale-forces outside.
Thinking quickly, Alicia grabs Charlie and takes her to the basement only to realize, far too late, that the ankle deep flood from yesterday was now a deep pool of high water. Before they both can even properly register their predicament, the ceiling near the basement entrance collapses, taking out the stairs beneath them, forcing them into the pool of water, and blocking the door behind them. Failing to find an exit, with the water around them continuing to rise, they rush to find something to stand on. Even if they could manage it, they can no longer break through the ceiling, as the dead have spilled into the house and continue to roam above them. Charlie lets Alicia know that, faced with the present situation and even knowing that she will forever be garbage, she doesn't want to die anymore but, now trapped and succumbing to her fate, begs Alicia to kill her. Seeing that Alicia isn't even able to process Charlie's request, she proceeds to explain that the only image of her parents she's been able to conjure, no matter how many books she's read, is the one of them changing and she doesn't want to end up like "one of them". It's why she was gathering up the photos of the people that used to live in this house: the slimmest chance that someone they love makes it means they won't be robbed of the way they remembered and loved them while they were alive. Alicia resists, but Charlie is desperate and tells her to try and think of all the ways that she hurt her. Alicia, not knowing what to do and the water continuing to rise, slowly raises the gun to meet Charlie's forehead. Charlie closes her eyes. As Alicia closes hers, she immediately flashes to the memory of Nick dying in her arms, his chest and mouth so full of blood, he could barely breathe let alone say goodbye; Strand, burning himself attempting to save Alicia from the flaming walkers outside The Stadium walls; the march of oily walkers descending on the the stadium, it's dwellers already dead attempting to flee the chaos; Good memories of Nick and her, making a life for themselves in the stadium; Madison, waving a flare and saying goodbye while guiding the undead armada into the stadium walls and locking them in with her, sacrificing her life to save her and the others.
All of these memories - but especially Madison's sacrifice - helps Alicia realize why she's still alive and refuses to waste that sacrifice. She lowers her gun and tells Charlie that she won't do it (because, and this isn't necessarily spoken, no one's gone til they're gone).
Just as Alicia grabs Charlie's hands, they hear a loud crash on the cellar door and discover that it no longer shut. As they emerge, they quickly spot the walker nearby, now free of the limb it was dangling from, near the balcony. Alicia quickly ends the infected by shooting it in the head. The very things that Charlie planned to use in order to end her life - the handgun and the walker - were the very things that, in the end, saved her.
It's only now that the sound of the background score starts up, again, as we see Alicia finish burying the deceased family and placing the jar of photos Charlie collected on one of their graves. Charlie arrives behind her as Alicia finishes up. Alicia tells her that she buried them for the people that could come back. This, in some ways, is kind of a double entendre: earlier, Alicia smashes through the front door with little thought to being able to close it again - a door/wound that can no longer be closed - but now she realizes that every moment is a chance to do right and work at healing. Charlie presents Alicia with the sword she had lost when the wind knocked her off her feet, earlier. Holding it only for a moment, she gives it back to Charlie: she's going to continue trying to live up to her mother's vision of her highest ideal.
As they drive back, Alicia says to Charlie, "Close Your Eyes"
Charlie hesitates, but does so. Alicia begins to describe the smell of the salty air as they near the beach in her mind's eye. We start to see what Charlie sees and the dull, blue-grey cinematic backdrop colors we've grown accustomed to has been replaced with vibrant yellows and blues as we see Charlie imaging her toes in sand, sparkling ocean water lapping at her feet. Back in the car, Charlie lets out a whimper. Through closed eyes, tears flowing between them and down her cheeks, she is able to see her parents.
Charlie calls out "Luci"(ana's) name as she and Alicia search hers and Strand's mansion for signs of life but come up empty. Arriving at what used to be Morgan's covered wagon, the cover has completely torn off. Their final attempt at rejoining their friends at John & June's school bus, on the bridge, is the most devastating: the storm has flipped it over on its side with no one responding to their calls. Instead of finding either of them, a walker with a mangled arm squeezes through a space between the flipped over bus and the bridge. Before Alicia gently takes her sword back to dispose of it, knowing who she needs to be in the here and now, she shows Charlie her cards, "...things don't get better, and they're not going to. They're only going to get worse til we're not around to see how bad they can get."
As the two stare off in the same direction, one can easily draw a comparison to another pair in The Walking Dead universe: Alicia, much like Rick, takes on the mantle of protector-at-all-costs, while Charlie embodies the no-one's-gone-til-they're-gone, there-has-to-be-something-after mentality we  recognize in Carl, especially in the final days of his life.

Sunday, November 5, 2023

Iron Tiger |8x08| Fear The Walking Dead

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Fear The Walking Dead pushes the envelope, continuing the theme of second chances from the previous episode, by giving us yet another long awaited - yet unanticipated - reunion between Madison Clark and Charlie. An expression we haven't used in a while, with respect to Fear The Walking Dead, bears repeating: you may not get what you want, but you'll like what you get.
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  • In a surprising twist, Sherrandy enjoyed the episode overall, but still dislikes Madison Clark. She mentions the walker in the opening shot with a starfish on its face (played by friend, Jeff Wagoner), complimenting the visual effects makeup department. She also missed and love seeing Luciana Galvez and Charlie.
  • Emily, in the audience chat, says Kim Dickens' acting makes it feel as though she's disinterested in being part of the show. Bridget attributes this, at least partially, to having difficulty getting back into the character of Madison, after being away from it while. However, many feel as though this episode showcased more of the Madison they remember. Dave suggests that there may be intentionality in Madison's acting/behavior: they want you to dislike her as much as the rest of the characters do by the end of this episode. Dave also compares Madison to Daryl Dixon: they're not prone to soliloquies and it's hard to gauge what they are truly thinking and what they might do next.

  • Speaking of poor dialogue that lacks an economy of words, this episode features more of the same redundant, throw-away lines we've seen in prior episodes of Season 8, with a distinct lack of show, don't tell. That being said, like in previous episodes this season, there were cool nods to past events and references to prior seasons: tying up loose ends and bringing things full circle is important in a final season.
  • There is a theory floating around that Tracy Otto is the offspring of Troy Otto and Alicia Clark. Sherrandy tweaks this theory and proposes that the reason why Alicia was sick throughout Season 7 was not the bite, the botched amputation of her arm, and/or radiation sickness, but being pregnant in the zombie apocalypse with Will's baby. Dave felt that it was important to reiterate that Tracy's mother was the same woman who gave him a second chance by saved him post the dam explosion at the end of Season 3. The rest of our conversation on this subject is spent shoe-horning in the possibility that Tracy's mother is still Alicia, only when it could've possibly occurred; however, in one last bid to make sense of what Troy says, Sherrandy suggests the mere notion of revenge is enough of a motivating factor that might've saved Troy.

    Editor's note: What we didn't cover was the fact that Tracy is named after Troy's mother.

  • Dave expresses his frustration over spoilers (to upcoming episodes) that he received from an entertainment journalist (that weren't provided, this time around, by background actor Jason Cone, who was in the audience).
  • Overall, Dave enjoyed the storytelling in this episode and likes where it's headed, which is also indicative of the consistent, alternating pattern of good and not-so-good episodes throughout Season 8. Going off a comment he made earlier in our season discussions, the show is really starting to take bigger chances, while embracing the harshness of The Walking Dead Universe. Just like the last episode, we continue to appreciate that another new character wasn't immediately killed off in the same episode that they were introduced (which was the case throughout Season 7 and most of Season 8).
  • The reappearance of Charlie, whom we long wrote off as dead, was unexpected and welcome; however, Bridget expresses massive frustration with people who managed to see this episode in advance on AMC+ and couldn't wait to spoil her reveal on social media ahead of the public airing. Setting that aside, there's nothing but love towards Charlie and at least there was a definitive conclusion to Charlie's storyline, though there was some debate on whether her sacrifice had meaning. Rightfully, many blame Madison for Charlie's death and were frustrated over Charlie's desire to make things right over killing Nick Clark, since Alicia had already forgiven her years ago. Many attribute this to Charlie's lack of life experience or at least partial arrested development; however, Bridget does agree with Madison over calling Charlie out on her bad timing when prematurely attempting to confront her, which Dave says is the weaponization of her pre-apocalypse role as a high school guidance counselor.

  • No matter which way you slice it, everyone was disappointed in Madison when she impulsively requested Charlie kill Troy to make up for killing Nick, but some even criticize Charlie for not refusing. It's important to remember that Charlie was only11 years old when she met her and Madison was the first person to show her that things could be different than the life she lived with The Vultures: Madison's return from the grave probably brought back overwhelming feelings of self-loathing she just couldn't shake.

  • That aside, Charlie is now a 20-year-old woman and her growth has show, too. This has never been more reflected than her quest to give Nick a proper burial among those who love her. What we further determined was that this was something she and Luci accomplished over the years, while establishing the trucker network, rather than upon hearing of Madison's return through Morgan Jones or over the radio (just after PADRE's transfer of power). Bridget complains that it would be extremely difficult to reach the appropriate temperature, with their present technology, to cremate Nick's remains. Suspending our disbelief, the circumstances of Nick's demise and subsequent reburial allows us to recap the events of Season 4, for those who forgot: it also reminded Sherrandy of how President Abraham Lincoln's body was lying in state and travelled throughout the United States for a year until it was finally buried and, also, how the embalmed corpse of Eva Perón lay in state in Argentina for decades.

  • Marcus Carrillo, in the audience, predicts that Fear TWD will end with PADRE being taken over by the Civic Republic (Military). This opens the door for Sherrandy to theorize that the gas refinement, post PADRE's fall, might not just be to fuel humanity's relief, but to primarily supply the CRM. To begin with, it's a little confusing from what stores Luciana is even able to stock the Take what you need, leave what you don't waystations, since the containers at PADRE were still guarded by the undead until just before PADRE's transition of power.

  • To Dave's earlier point about Charlie being an adult now: Charlie's sacrifice was not to make up for taking away Nick from Madison or the world, but to make it count for Alicia. Her primary goal was protecting PADRE at all costs, considering that being captured was her plan from the beginning according to Daniel Salazar, so she'd be far away from the semi-truck explosion she rigged as possible. As far as Charlie taking her life, at the end, some folks express that Alicia would not have wanted Charlie to sacrifice herself for any reason, whether it was killing Nick or saving PADRE from Troy. Bridget brings up Daryl to illustrate how both he and Charlie might be in a perpetual state of paying penance for past mistakes and choosing to live their life in service of others, rather than themselves, because of it.

  • Dave highlights another positive in this episode: mostly because it's been so long since we've seen Luciana, it was the first time it he didn't have to remind himself of the seven-year time jump. Other indicators of the passage of time include Charlie's more mature decisions and watching Daniel reunite with his girls.

  • Focusing more on the title, it was nice to see Luciana take on Clayton's call-sign as Polar Bear, but Charlie's call-sign of Iron Tiger - rather than the more fitting Iron Butterfly - is a little baffling. The closest we could come to any significance was a book by Jack Higgins called The Iron Tiger, but we couldn't link it to this episode or to Charlie specifically. And what about Charlie's look? It's a bit of a mix of Sarah Rabinowitz, with the handkerchiefs hanging out of her cargo pants and those boots, and Alicia, with the jacket and straight black hair. It's really easy to imagine that Sarah and Wendell are still alive and part of the trucker network. Bridget finds somewhat of a reference in The Little Prince about tigers not eating weeds/flowers. And is Charlie wearing Sarah's belt buckle? We eventually decided that Charlie's callsign references Daniel's cat, Skidmark, who has gone missing since Season 6.

  • Daniel being reunited with Lucy and Charlie, is everything. But like every happy moment, we immediately think of who eventually upset him: Madison. Sherrandy says she's more Toxic than the Britney Spears song. Dave probably likes her because of her flaws and propensity towards risk-taking. Repercussions for them came in the form Daniel refusing to help her, at the end, along with the overwhelming majority of her friends turning their backs on her. Dave thinks that Madison is intentionally being framed in an ugly way to make viewers dislike her, especially going off her behavior in the episode prior.

  • How can you not appreciate the tension and complexity of Madison and Charlie's reckoning and their subsequent rocky interactions? As resolute as Charlie was about her committment to keep PADRE safe, we thought Alexa Nisenson could've embraced some of the negative personal interactions from the fan base and brought them into her performance, especially during the final scenes between she and Daniel Sharman. However we felt about Charlie's reckoning with Madison and her final stand, she stood her ground and we appreciate that the show didn't pull punches, which was a great example of fan-service.

  • The audience wonders how Alicia would feel about Madison asking Charlie to kill Troy to make up for killing Nick. Owen, in the chat, makes a point about Charlie suddenly resurfacing guilt overwhelmed her decision-making, to which Bridget adds that Charlie had spent the last seven years thinking everything was alright until Madison reappeared. It's clear, by way of Alexa's performance and her actions both on and off screen, that she has not only grown up but it truly feels like time has passed; however, we noticed that - throughout the series - Charlie has clearly spent a majority of her life, much like Daryl, paying penance and being in service to the ones she loves, rather than for herself. Alicia's last words, Make It Count, probably only served to exacerbate this. Despite how well the actions leading to Charlie's death - and her demise, itself - works narratively, Dave acknowledges the feelings of anger and confusion towards them from his hostmates and even the audience, because it doesn't feel like they are coming from Charlie we remember. After ridding herself of cancer, which must've been quite the miracle, her death feels like such a waste.

  • ...and, really, why did Charlie kill herself for PADRE to begin with? To protect PADRE? Bridget has an issue with that because, from our outside perspective and TWDU knowledge/experience, all settlements eventually fall. But Dave interjects: these characters haven't watched The Walking Dead; besides, how do you tell people who are so desperate to find a a safe place to live - for both themselves, their children, and even for a questionable future - to stop working so hard because it's not worth it? Ostensibly, PADRE could be seen to be on the level of the one place that hasn't fallen yet: The Commonwealth. People fought and died to protect PADRE, already. Everyone character on this show has a stake in its future.

  • This brings us to Victor, this episode. Even he, at one point, paused to consider a frontal assault on Troy's army, because losing that battle might put Klaus and Frank at risk. It's also why Victor is afraid of being in charge of operations at PADRE: not just because he doesn't trust himself, given the last time he was in control of a safe place, but because he has people he loves on a whole other level to protect and doesn't want to lose himself in the process (and them, too, as a result of having to transform).

  • Going back to the subject of reunions, though Daniel's was on point, this episode, reunions throughout this season have been lackluster, especially after not seeing each other for several years. Bridget compares this to a recent reunion she just had with an old friend from Wisconsin and how overly enthusiastic she was when seeing him again: for these characters to not be over the moon about even knowing that their friends are still breathing after all these years amidst a zombie apocalypse is patently absurd. Dave does give Luci a pass, since seeing Madison again definitely must've immediately made her think of what Madison might do if she knew Charlie was alive (and she was totally right to be concerned, especially in the aftermath).

  • Going back to the desperate need to maintain control and obscure PADRE's whereabouts - and even with the Luci's ambition to expand her trucker network and increase the amount of waystations - considering that this is FearTWD's final season, it feels like this part of TWDU is also moving into a phase two of the zombie apocalypse, where some semblance of pre-apocalypse normality is being established. This is also evident in the reason for Troy's desperation to find a place like Padre: not only for his daughter, but so many people in his charge who are just as desperate (and knowing that their children were snatched up by Madison, you can easily see why). This allowed Dave to reexamine his own suppositions towards Troy (that he made in the last episode) - about him being a psychopath - which is ironic, considering that Troy has the very same suppositions towards Madison. For a moment, near the very end of this episode, you almost get a sense of both Madison & Troy starting to finally understand each other's motivations: maybe they really are the same person, willing to risk everything for the ones they love (right or wrong, foolish or brave).

  • Owen, with another insight, praises the new Strand for being complicated and embracing love in order to fight for Padre's protection, rather than the way he felt he had to reject love in order to protect his tower. Speaking of callbacks, Dave highlights that one of Daniel's crew is Hawk: one of PADRE's prefects. But Dave also likes to think that the older, ginger gentleman astride him is none other than Hawk's father: the tender thought is completely lost on everyone. Regardless, it's great that the show hasn't forgot about some kids (referring to Annie, Max, and Dylan), this go around, and they're even appearing in subsequent episodes, too!

  • Dave doesn't want to episode to proceed further without mentioning how Bridget's theory about Troy having a daughter was correct, especially in light of the fact that (again) this was spoiled for him before the prior podcast episode discussion and had to keep quiet about it. Jokes about the entertainment journalist, who shall not be named, being Voldemort and Bridget's odd pronunciation of the name Voldemort are made. Speaking of the airing of grievances, it was cool to see how ridiculously low the cigarette prices were, but not cool that we couldn't find Low Country Landing on a map, when researching this episode. And it should be said that it was interesting to hear that familiar country muzak playing at Luci's waystation as Daniel, Madison, and Strand were entering - a callback to when Morgan first stepped into one, which was established by Clayton and his trucker network (before they were were all murdered by Martha).

  • Still at the waystation, some of us were not impressed at Madison's reaction to seeing a one-armed walker in the horde: Alicia would not be anywhere near them (having left her a few whole states west) and the walker's appearance would most likely be different. We pause to appreciate more of Troy's cheeky lines this episode and continued the funny by suggesting the walkers and/or prior characters who's arms have been amputated form a club called the Ren and Stumpy Club featuring Sarah and Alicia. But Dave relates to Madison's reaction: in a busy, highly-populated hub city like New York, it's easy to be triggered by seeing someone who resembles an ex-girlfriend or a friend you haven't seen in decades, then subsequently seeing them everywhere you look.

  • Speaking of the way things look, the cinematography was exceptional this episode, especially the very subtle dolly zoom effect on Madison just after Charlie divulges that she had murdered Nick (which only enhanced the emotional impact of that moment). This technique - zooming in while pulling the camera back - was famously used in the move Jaws and abused in the movie Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead. Other camera angles and shots in the episode are well-executed, like capturing Charlie's first-person perspective as she was coming to (after being knocked out) and even the way the camera was looking at Troy and shaking a bit enhanced the tension. Even the wide angle shot of the truck pulling-in, at the end of the episode, is filmed in such a way that it fits entirely in the shot without taking up the entire viewport.



  • The use of flashbacks in the episode reminded us of episode 4x10, Close Your Eyes: specifically the moment where Alicia finally forgave Charlie amidst the flooding the basement. The flashbacks in this episode included memories of Charlie's feet in the sand, the water lapping her feet, which was the Alicia attempting to get Charlie to remember one of the last pleasant moments with her parents. She also cycled through memories with Madison, Alicia, Daniel, Nick, and Luciana. The last image Charlie sees before deciding to end her life is Alicia near the rafts in 7x15 Amina, showing her mouth the words Make It Count.

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Saturday, April 17, 2021

[Episode 128] Interview with Alexa Nisenson ("Charlie" from Fear The Walking Dead)

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We're very proud to present our hour-long sit-down with the intelligent, sweet, and remarkable Alexa Nisenson. We had a lot of excellent fan questions prepared, with some very handy and complimentary questions provided by our Supporter-Backed audience members. We go through both the sweet and sour of Alexa's journey through #TWDUniverse and we all come out of it stronger for having done it.
Please, do not miss out on the opportunity to join us in the audience for our next interview! ...and, failing that, the ability to download the uncut version of this interview. We went on a few tangents (our Friends conversation), as well as some funny moments we simply had to edit out!

Alexa Nisenson:
Rachael Burt:
Sherrandy Swift:
David Cameo:

  • Thanking Alexa for participating in @BlazyGardener's Walking Dead Universe Secret Santa Christmas Special:
  • Being on set of Fist Fight with Charlie Day, Ice Cube, Tracy Morgan and other big stars.

  • Rapping Big Sean live (rather than pre-recorded) and eventually meeting him!
  • @bccastrillo asks: What was like rapping I Don't Fuck With You by Big Sean?
  • Getting into acting through competitive dance
  • Alexa the High School Graduate! Congratulations!
  • Home Schooling and On-Set Learning and its challenges.
  • Love for music, and instruments
  • What comes after school?
  • We're all re-watching Season 4 of Fear The Walking Dead

  • @comicbookboy_ asks: How did you land the role of Charlie?

  • Alexa made Charlie an indispensable character, becoming a series regular in Season 5: she wasn't supposed to last more than a few episodes.

  • @frostedangel67 asks: Have you ever met Melissa McBride?
  • @daryls.moonshine asks: How do you feel about Charlie? Are you Team Charlie?


  • Comparing Alexa and Charlie
  • Charlie coming into her own on Ner Tamid.

  • @maxi170703 asks: Had you heard of or seen Fear The Walking Dead before you landed the role?
  • @grimeify asks: If you could play another role on Fear The Walking Dead, who would it be?
  • @tylerphillipcox (Let's Taco bout The Dead) asks: If you could cross over to The Walking Dead and have scenes with any other character, who would it be?
  • Charlie's future: sticking with Alicia Clark, protecting her new family.

  • @oliiimediiina asks: Do we know Charlie's surname?
  • Grimes? Smith?
  • @mockjaygrimes asks: Are Charlie & Daniel Salazar going to have more scenes together, this season?

  • @michaelandlordzachary asks: Do you have any funny stories or any on-set pranks you could share with us?

  • Tom on the bridge is high up there:

  • Not much to do with her free time: a lot of take-out, but also socially distanced hang-outs with cast and walks/drives with family.
  • @maxi170703 asks: What is a typical day on set look like?
  • Days start/end as early/late as 4am! Lots of testing for COVID-19 and safety protocols, but still positive energy on set.
  • @frostedangel67 asks: What has your favorite episode of Fear The Walking Dead been to film, so far?
  • She and Alycia Debnam-Carey wore wet suits in the basement scene of Close your Eyes (FearTWD 4x10)

  • Drying off and changing clothes after many takes for the stair collapse.
  • Read our love letter to Adam Suschitzky & Michael Satrazemis on our episode recap for Close Your Eyes
  • Water temperature probably helped Alexa's performance, rather than hinder it.

  • @katyE052293 asks: How would you describe Charlie to someone who's never watched Fear The Walking Dead?
  • @maxi170703 asks: How do you perform these scenes so convincingly? Is there something specific you think about when you are supposed to cry?
  • @TWDeadDaily asks: If you could change one thing about Charlie, what would it be?

  • Would Madison Clark forgive Charlie for killing Nick?

  • Handling fan backlash to Charlie killing Nick Clark, internet toxicity, and real life harassment/threats.
  • Things changed for Alexa after attending Walker Stalker 2019, seeing real-life positive feedback (and met @Blazygsrdener, too!)
  • Learning resilience from haters.
  • Alexa as a villain? She would love to play one!
  • @frostedangel67 compares Charlie to Carol Peletier: "She does what's necessary"
  • @celtictso asks: Which Charlie image he should add to his #TWDUniverse tattoos?
  • Also, check out Alexa on Summer Camp Island as the voice of Alexa Mongello

  • Alexa wish Daniel in the audience a Happy Birthday!

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