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The #midseasonpremiere kicks off with #AliciaClark's revolution underway, having already sought assistance from Arno (and failed). With that understanding, the show-runners take time to tell us an anthologized story in the process to show her a new way forward: to much polarization from the audience.
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- Rachael is making headway in her VFX makeup class!
- Bridget: Always find the silver lining! Loved Paul, loved the Scotland references, and the Alicia Clark focused episode. Along with Rachael, not a fan of her sweaty, fever or Paul's death.
- Could we be seeing the side effects from the (possibly irradiated) walker blood that splattered all over Alicia in the first half of Season 5?
- Dave: This episode was a masterpiece. Never fully embraced the hype fans had towards Alicia's character as a hero/bad-ass.
- Dave: This episode is working through issues with Alicia’s (arrested) character development from prior seasons.
- Addressing possibly confusion: Alicia trying to get back to her friends on the sub, not the followers she was trying to lead from Theodore Maddox's bunker.
- But is Alicia truly equipped to be a leader?
- Bridget explains the way Alicia demonstrated leadership qualities in the back half of Season 3, at Broke Jaw Ranch.
- Bridget wonders whether Follow Me was all a dream.
- Paul represents Alicia's hope and optimism.
- Similarities to The Wizard of Oz: along with a girl in pigtails (albeit, in a gas mask) like the character Dorothy Gale.
- Has the audience expected Alicia to fill the void Madison Clark left since her departure?
- Rachael would've preferred more of an ensemble-style (rather than anthology-style) episode, for a mid-season premiere
- Should they have swapped 7x09 with 7x10 since it contained more cast?
- 🎖SURVIVORS Tier Member: Jasmine's take, "Hagus ain't so bad!"
- Rachael: It would be better if this were a stand alone movie, but for an episode in an overall arc, it doesn't move the story along.
- Dave: It does move the story forward, just not in the way you would've hoped/preferred.
- Get on with the war, already!
- Is Alicia actually sick or is it in her head?
- Sherrandy asks, in the chat: Might her confidence have been shaken from the events of Damage on the Inside (6x07), in that she chose to provide Dakota asylum from Virginia?
- Bridget felt the opening sequence was surreal and dreamlike.
- Was Paul's phrasing of the musical instruments as "out of tune" a metaphor for No one's gone until they're gone?
- What role does luck play in the apocalypse?
- When was the last time Alicia was actually in a good place?
- Bridget hopes we continue to actually see Alicia’s character develop over the course of the remaining episodes, rather than squelched by time jumps; however, a montage will suffice.
- Shoutout to Warren "Wawa" Snipe, who actually played the bagpipes in Paul's final moments on screen (gone too soon!).
- What good is Paul’s cochlear implant if it's non-operational?
- Is the little girl in the gas mask a representation of a younger Alicia? ...all of the people waiting to be helped/help her? ...connected to the group that has her mother?
- Is Ode to Joy, a song that preaches peace between all peoples, a breadcrumb for things to come? Will there even be a war?
- Sherrandy recommends Immortal Beloved, a movie that depicts Beethoven's struggle with hearing loss.
- Paul patched the bagpipes with the skin from a walker’s face!
- After Dave explains the significance of both Paul & Ed Gein (from Damage from the Inside) being two men, gone too soon, that remind Alicia to trust/believe in herself, Sherrandy points out Paul was shot in the same spot where Ed was impaled.
- Dave's Crazy Brain: Might Alicia’s illness be derived from something sci-fi-like contained within walker Senator Vazquez's blood?
- Was all these events part of Executive Producers Ian Goldberg & Andrew Chambliss' overall roadmap?
- Parallel: Arno's left hand is shot just like Alicia’s left arm.
- Spenser Granese (Arno) also played Arlo on Better Call Saul.
- Now that Alicia is assuming the role of PADRE, will we ever see its location?
- What if the people who have Madison are (in the actual) PADRE?
- ChrisTheBeat, in the chat, asks if Alicia was the one broadcasting PADRE's existence in the surrounding region.
- Should Alicia lead or should she follow? Dave & Rachael spar on this one.
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