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This episode gave us so much to work with in terms of parallels: people mirroring other people and scenes mirroring other scenes. #TheReapers & #TheCommonwealth, more than any other theme, are the most representative of those contrasting themes: The former being the natural conclusion had out survivors remained in the wild ("kill them all") and the latter a result of having the shelter and luck to survive behind walls (preoccupation with the seemingly trivial). There were many bones to pick, but we sorted through them and came out on top - all while having some laughs along the way.
I love the unedited version of this episode. So many mistakes! And, uh, Dave has a few senior moments that we had to minimize! The post show, we go into the development of our Spooky SQUAWKtober Cosplay Contest, so that's a nice bit of behind the scenes! If you want this and more, all while supporting this podcast, head here:
Announcing the winner of the Kirk Manley (AKA, @batmankm) TWD (Seasons 10 & 11) Tribute Art Weekend Giveaway
You should also check out the interview we did with him in our sophomore #TWDFamily Branches set of interviews, here:
Respecting Negan's brutal honesty, while beholding the opposite in Lance Hornsby's lies, and trying to gauge Maggie Rhee's word to Negan, in light of her actual promise that she would kill him.
When/Why did Maggie decide to kill Negan? Considering pre-TWD9x05 time jump. Hershel Rhee kills Negan?
Pope and The Reapers are the natural conclusion to these large groups surviving this long. Makes Negan and The Saviors sound benevolent, especially in light of the truth Negan dumps on Maggie.
Maggie acting a lot like Alpha? #HateBang? Funnily enough, the masks Negan made looked a lot like Alpha's (and one like Miles from TWD 9x15)
Sorting out logistics: the building where Maggie's dead walker people were held and how The Reapers are, in fact, in Meridian (the last successful settlement Maggie had before The Reapers ran her out).
-1 Bone to Pick: Yes, matches pre-fall will still strike. Just ask this guy:
+1 Bone to Pick: Why do the walkers not see our group from 6 feet away?
Dave Rants: Negan's brutal truth allows her to actually have feelings after being switched off for years. By bringing her emotionally online, it allows him to be a real Savior. Or he could just be her killing cheerleader.
Yin Yang: Daryl Dixon breathing humanity into Leah Shaw resembles Negan trying to bring Maggie back. Will Leah challenging Pope have consequences?
+1 Bone to Pick: put away that damn shotgun, Leah. However, Leah is growing on us. As Leah pulls away from Pope, Yumiko Okumura easily slips back into her old life.
Oh Yumiko, just like the coffee table book (and the contents therein), The Commonwealth is establishing something that was never meant to be revived (and in many cases, can't be)! Comparisons to Michonne Hawthorne from the comic book.
Remember Reprocessing? "It's the Commonwealth's way!" of getting you to be doughy, doe-eyed members of society after how rough the outside world has undoubtedly become.
Fake Stephanie was definitely (may still be?) Commonwealth Military. And Sebastian Milton is amazingly horrible!
But who takes on the Rick Grimes role on the TV show? Getting-closer-to-the-comic-book-version Eugene Porter? He might know more than he's willing to say (even to his own friends) about (real) Stephanie Vega.
Speaking of Stephanie, she let's us in just a little to her feelings towards Eugene. Trying to unweave the cons-on-cons-on-cons (AKA con-ception).
The Hilltop formula redux: Pamela Milton is real dumb.
Dave loves the acting of Teo Rapp-Olsson (AKA Baby Milton) and can't wait for all the awfulness to come. +1 Bone to Pick: Fake Stephanie, kill those damn walkers!
Why Lance's plan to make Eugene the hero would've never worked. Why it would be great if Baby Milton was in his 30s
Father Gabriel's spooky (and potentially calamitous) encounter with his dark mirror Reaper Preacher. Callbacks to Gabie's initial entry into badassdome and why that matters. Mirrors Leah's inability to kill the woman she and Daryl find.
Speaking of Mirroring/Yin Yang-ing, check out these two literally mirroring one another:
Had Negan not embedded himself with The Whisperers - and Maggie not given him a chance - Maggie might not be able to defeat The Reapers using The Whisperers tactics (weaponizing walkers/guardians).
What happens to The Reapers if Pope is taken out? Leah taking on a remixed version of comic book Andrea Harrison and/or Sherry...? especially in light of Daryl being a shadow of Dwight.
Carol Peletier doesn't sound like she would have a problem with Leah, but what about Leah (with Carol) in light of the lack of truth between them, at the moment.
Dave recreates the scene with Reaper Preacher speaking to "God"
The irony of Tomi Okumura displaying so many flyers and posters of The Commonwealth Annual Lottery and why Hornsby might've grabbed him.
As King Ezekiel returns to Eugene & Princess, noticing his change in voice: is he playing suzie-homemaker (like Carol) or is he just on some real good drugs.
Pope's PTSD running rampant might lead his group to ruin, but will the show humanize him (in light of Ritchie Coster's acting)?
#TWDUniverse makes Dave sound like a good person (we know the truth, though):
The further we dive into Season 11 (and reach the summit of our knowledge within the comic book) the more exciting things are becoming (kind of like why we love Fear TWD)
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At 1900 hours, or Seven in the PM, we're going 11x11 on your asses. This episode introduced a satisfying amount of frustration (we know how that sounds): between the deception wrought upon #EugenePorter (on behalf of #StephanieVega / Shira / #MaxineHawkins), the larger deception of #TheCommonwealth on #Mercer (and Connie/Kelly), and #LanceHornsby showing his cards to #CarolPeletier.
We definitely cut out a lot of hijinks and extended conversations (not to mention rampant technical difficulties - which are hilarious in their own way) in the pre-show, post-show, and even throughout the episode! This is definitely an unedited episode recording you do not want to miss out on! You can stream it, now, and all Early Access Unedited Episode Recordings by supporting us, here:
Aliza: Eugene Porter's Shakespearean monologue, Connie in peril? And the Oscar goest to: Josh McDermitt
Jasmine: A rewatch can do this episode wonders.
Why did Shira let things go too far?
Rachael: Questions finally answered?
Is there an actual Stephanie Vega?
#CarolBeCaroling
Bridget: Was this episode inspired by Alfred Hitchcock?
We see each character in The Commonwealth through the various perspectives of our characters.
Sherrandy: The writers have been experimenting with different styles; this episode feels like a spy thriller, while 11x06 "On the Inside" felt more like a horror movie.
Lance doesn't want the Alexandrians to see the Commonwealth and their communities as separate, but refers to them as different during his confrontation with Eugene.
Has Lance been moving people up to gain their loyalty?
Is Lance moving people up or promising to?
What does Moto's community need money for if they aren't a part of the Commonwealth?
Does Lance want Alexandria to be a Commonwealth outpost?
Will Moto's arrest tip-off The Commonwealth to Lance's shady dealings?
How much does Pamela really know?
Does all the opium go to the hospital?
2.5 acres typically produces between 17.6 to 36 pounds per season.
Is Lance trying to wrestle control of The Commonwealth from Pamela?
Could Lance be a better leader, since he worked his way to the top?
Does The Commonwealth even hold (free & fair) elections? Sounds a lot like Tweedism(named after Boss Tweed, who's philosophy was "I don't care who does the electing, as long as I get to do the nominating.").
The Hilltop formula: Maggie Rhee to Gregory, Paul "Jesus" Rovia to Maggie, Tara Chambler to Jesus. Comparing these two second-in-commands: Simon to Lance.
Aidan (in the chat): Makes you wish Deanna Monroe was still alive.
Aliza Standard Time: Aliza leaves us.
Cult of Personality takes precedence over a candidate's policy-positions, just ask anyone in the debate between John F. Kennedy & Richard Nixon.
Is it harder to come back and re-civilize as opposed to losing it in the first place? Bridget is reminded of the Hatchet series of books, by Gary Paulsen.
Eugene tacked the waffle cone left in his hands the day "Stephanie" disappeared onto the serial killer board
The clock hands in the town square are broken, providing an illusion of time or that even time, as a system (like The Commonwealth's society), is broken.
Juanita "Princess" Sanchez's imaginary lasagna!
As Jasmine leaves us, let's talk Princess: Is she painfully aware of what is going on with Eugene? Bridget & Aidan share how their lives connect with the story Princess tells Eugene.
Eugene's Kansas City: World's Best Barbeque shirt is reminiscent of his Virginia is for Lovers shirt in The Walking Dead, Season 5. Also similar to Morgan Jones' Don't Mess with Texas shirt he receives from Grace Mukherjee in Fear The Walking Dead, Season 5.
Does Lance see himself in Carol Peletier?
Is Lance unintentionally training his replacement?
Could Lance be crushing on Carol?
Is Lance planning to use the new Alexandria Safe-Zone recruits to enact his plans?
Why does Max show up now?
What is Max risking by approaching Eugene?
Why should Eugene believe Max?
Could Max have been banned from speaking with Eugene after falling in love with him?
What is this plan's endgame?
Are The Commonwealth and the Civic Republic Military aware of one another?
Is Pamela the modern version of Gregory?
Don't care, where's Rick Grimes.
How will Princess react to finding out that Eugene was right?
Was disappearing "Stephanie" really as stupid a plan as it sounds?
Can an admission of temporary emotional/mental distress be held against them?
How Could Max let this happen to Eugene?
Proof of economic deflation in The Commonwealth Tribune (Issue 523: which indicates they are 10-years into publication).
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In all the years we've watched TWD, we've only come so close to the kind of spooky episode we received this week. Powerful performances delivered by Lauren Ridloff (AKA Connie) & Kevin T Carroll (AKA Virgil). And I think we're reaching an interesting turning point when it comes to Leah Shaw, Daryl Dixon, and The Reapers.
I cannot encourage you to download the unedited episode recording, enough. Since Aliza and I were the only hosts, I had such a lovely, long chat with her during the pre-show - almost worthy of it's own #TWDFamily Branches episode! We barely edited anything out of the episode and a lovely little post show, the whole of it is pretty short! Download it now and support the podcast! Click here:
Did you miss Kirk Manley's Exhibition? We announced the Winner of our Kirk Manley's #TWD Tribute Art Weekend Giveaway last night:
Amazing performances with Lauren Ridloff & Kevin T. Carroll. If not for this being the final season, they should've excluded the Daryl Dixon & The Reapers scenes.
The knife parallel: Leah Shaw's/Pope's knife is given to Daryl; Virgil attempts to give his knife to Connie.
Leah & Daryl expressing their thoughts openly to Carver. Daryl chirped more in this episode than whole seasons.
Would Daryl kill Leah if he had to? Would Leah kill Daryl? With whom would either side if their family were threatened.
In actual terms, even though we really didn't see it, Daryl and Leah had a relationship. Carver may have "picked up the pieces" after Daryl ran off on Leah.
Not wanting to see Daryl with Leah is completely understandable. Daryl went from asexual to multiple love interests: Parallel with Lori Grimes (her love for Rick Grimes even when she moved on with Shane Walsh). And could Leah have run off because she was pregnant?
Did Frost rat out Daryl to Pope? How far has Pope unraveled? Comparing Pope's behavior with Carver to Theodore Maddox from Fear The Walking Dead and the treatment of his disciple Riley.
So yeah, Frost may not be a double-agent... Most likely. No old world loyalty among military brothers.
The only way to hook Carver is to give him some truth, "I'm only here for her." Leah's uncanny ability to know when Daryl is lying to her. Discussing this in the shadow of the Daryl & Carol Spin-Off.
The Walking Dead did Enders better than Z-Nation did: Illustrates the acceleration of society's breakdown. Negan mentioning how he would've done things differently is different than his Comic book counterpart.
When the Ferals spoiler image going around wasn't so much of a spoiler. Greg Nicotero's visual talent truly shining through. The clever bait-and-switch of us, like Virgil, thinking Connie was seeing things.
Connie insisting that family is also found, in spite of Virgil's desire to sacrifice himself so she can find Kelly. Drawing some parallels with Virgil and Michonne (keeping their family close, at first).
Will Virgil die? Will either Michonne or Rick show up on any of these #TWDUniverse programs? What about the Grimes children (Judith Grimes & RJ Grimes)?
FearTWD's nuke could explain the desolation throughout the kids' journey in The Walking Dead: World Beyond. Also, timelines...!
Where do you think our survivors will end up? The Commonwealth?
Is a happy ending possible in The Walking Dead Universe? Also, The Civic Republic Military isn't very nice...
Jeffrey Dean Morgan/Negan going down swinging (what spin-off?) and both The Commonwealth & The CRM outlasting the main series. Possibly crossover to FearTWD?
Looking back, Terminus cannibals started crazy early: Ferals are what happens when you take Termites to their logical conclusion (eating the dead/Kuru/Wasting Disease).
The Ferals might've been teenagers when the fall occurred and how the house eventually became a spider's web, rather than a home.
Experiencing a little backstory dialogue between Virgil & Connie when Kelly finds Connie's pad. Attempting to determine (Virgil's and) Connie's whereabouts for the past month.
Ominous conversation about King Ezekiel's health/future. Unweaving our characters' (Stephanie Vega, Eugene Porter, Fake Stephanie, and Tomi Okumura) web of lies (and whether they'll have consequences).
Yumiko Okumura is impressed that there is someone with the title "governor" in Pamela Milton. Meanwhile, we can't help thinking about Woodbury.
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DECONSTRUCT #THECOMMONWEALTH! …From their economic system to systemic inequality (both spoken and unspoken). Dave's obsession with "allowance". Ninja #CarolPeletier with the long hair's partnership with a vastly more sympathetic #LanceHornsby. And we're here for #Carzekiel & #Mercress / #Princer / #Merces.
Over 3+ HOURS of laughter (especially during the intro) and massively extended takes that #TWDU aficionados would appreciate that we simply had to cut for time are contained in the UNEDITED EPISODE RECORDING! Stream this, now, whilst supporting the BEST #TWDUniverse #podcast, here:
Rachael: Lots more Carol Peletier! Callbacks galore! Trust no one!
Aidan (in the chat): One of his favs!
Jasmine: Is King Ezekiel preparing for his own death by giving away his possessions?
Who will get Dwight’s comic-book death? Ezekiel, Father Gabriel Stokes, Magna, or Rosita Espinosa?
Jasmine: Carol needs a project, e.g, revenge on Alpha. This time, a cure for Ezekiel.
Aidan: "She hasn’t lost a kid in a while."
Bridget: Excited to see the #Carzekiel reunion. Is it a mistake to mash two best friends into a relationship like some want to see with Carol & Daryl Dixon?
Are lottery tickets the only upward mobility in The Commonwealth?
What is the pay gap between jobs? Baker vs Soldier? Lawyer vs Waiter?
We see the previous year’s lottery winner at the Halloween Gala.
Can you apply for other jobs in the Commonwealth or are you stuck with what you are assigned?
How do children factor into this equation, since they didn't have jobs before The Zombie Apocalypse?
Are Mei and Judith Grimes in different classes?
What does allowance mean in The Commonwealth?
Dave: Mommy Pamela Milton’s allowance to the elites.
Do upper class kids get their pick of the litter when it comes to jobs?
How does The Commonwealth hospital triage system work?
Ezekiel is patient #147 in the cue for surgeries. In numerology, Angel Number 147 means an angel is speaking to you: pay attention! It represents a better future!
The bottles on the Vincenti's Fine Wines invoice, Chateau Du Devoument, Ouro Vipra, and Canard De Pluie translate to House of Devotion, Gold Viper, and Rain Duck.
Who is at the top of The Commonwealth? Pamela, Lance, Mercer, and Max?
Is Max the Gold Viper?
Is Lance the House of Devotion?
What if Carol were the one to end Magna or Gabriel (the Dwight role in the comic book)?
Vincenti's real world address may be located in Dover Township, Ohio.
Sherrandy's take: In the The Walking Dead: World Beyond's Season Finale post-credits scene, they mention Primrose heading to Toledo, Ohio .
Is there a grander TWDU narrative to The Commonwealth?
What did Pamela Milton do before the apocalypse?
What if Primrose is but a 3rd dimension that serves as the foundation of The Commonwealth? Because what comes after The Commonwealth storyline?
What the date on the invoice might tell us (9/11/2010).
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Originally Recorded 2022/09/01
It's telling that this episode premieres just after the #TalesOfTheWalkingDead's Alpha origin story episode: instead of Doc Everett honoring his (more than just?) friend by wearing his face as a #Whisperers mask, he memorializes him by studying him. He does the same to Amy in similar fashion. "People are chaos" and we all have our own, personal ways of surviving and that's never been more apparent than in this episode, which further expands our vista in the ever-growing #TWDUniverse!
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Our dear Sherrandy takes time to shoutout all of our lovely TWDU family members for helping her recover from when her house was struck by lightning. I know I speak for all of us when I say WE LOVE YOU SHERRANDY!
Our very own Rachael is working atThe Cat's Meowas an emcee, which is defined as a karaoke experience!
Dave's first impression of this episode was that he was somewhat bummed out after having a positive first two episodes, and a satisfying third.
Rachael enjoyed the episode, but was more bummed-out over the fact that we may never get to see Dr. Chauncey Everett again.
Bridget believed this episode was going to be a documentary and was disappointed that the documentary-style montages were only a small portion of the episode.
Sherrandy enjoyed that this episode was more philosophical and encouraged the audience to ask themselves many questions.
In a battle of nature vs man, with whom do you side?
Sherrandy mentions that the opening sequence reminded her of one of the introductory videos promoting The Commonwealth on The Walking Dead.
Have you appreciated the order in which each episode of Tales of the Walking Dead was placed?
What is your opinion on TWDU as a whole right now? Have you been enjoying the new stories they've been trying to tell, or are you upset when it deviates from the flagship series?
Would you want to see the origin stories of characters you are already familiar with in Tales of the Walking Dead, or would you rather continue receiving new stories and new characters?
Aidan's Aside: As all of the hosts kind of rally against seeing more origin stories, I would be remise if I didn't mention a recent article from What To Watch, authored by Sarabeth Pollock (who we have had on our show before), asking the actors on The Walking Dead about the potential of reprising their respective characters in origin stories on Tales of The Walking Dead. I found a lot of their answers interesting. The way Laila Robins imagines what a possible Pamela Milton backstory could look like would make for an outstanding hour of television. I really enjoyed Eleanor Matsuura's vision for a Yumiko Okumura/Magna/Tomichi Okumura backstory episode the most!
Do you think backstories even matter or should The Walking Dead continue to shy away from origin stories (save an exception or two)?
What's your opinion on pre-apocalypse flashbacks: should The Walking Dead (Universe) maintain their stance by not depicting them?
Aliza mentions how she loves the way this episode handles nature and deals with human survival.
If there are plans for Dee and Hera, does it stand to reason that there are most likely plans for other characters we've seen in Tales of The Walking Dead?
Sherrandy jokingly asks how the stories of Blair Crawford & Gina would continue? Would they move on to some final boss?
Sherrandy compares Tales of The Walking Dead to the tapes of Althea Szewczyk-Przygockifrom Fear the Walking Dead. She never went back to revisit how people were doing, she just moved on to the next story.
Does Dr. Everett seem similar to Hershel Greene,who did not want to kill walkers?
When will we finally get an explanation for the different types of walker variants? Could it be in the final eight episodes of the flagship show, since it has been teased?
Could Alicia Clark (from Fear TWD) have been right about walkers maintaining some of their living counterpart's consciousness?
Aidan's Aside: All of this discussion of Alicia Clark makes me wonder what an interaction between Dr. Everett and Alicia Clark would be like. Could we potentially see Alicia and Dr. Everett meet? Even though Alycia Debnam-Carey left FTWD, it was open-ended, so it's still in her cards (though, she would appear much older after 35 years). Check out this article from Kirsten Acuna about Alicia's potential future in the TWDU.
Speaking of Alicia, Rachael notes that Amy's amputated left arm reminds her of Alicia's.
Aliza brings up the Teddy Bear Girl Walker, Jenny Jones, and other smart walkers we've observed during The Walking Dead's 1st season.
Dave reads the poem Dr. Everett recites at the end of the episode, which was written by Emily Dickinson, titled, Nature is What We See.
Aidan's Aside: I enjoyed the conversation everyone was having about Emily Dickinson. While I was watching this episode of Tales, I found myself frequently reflecting on the Apple TV+ series Dickinson starring Hailee Steinfeld. I highly recommend watching it. It also features Fear TWD alums, Chinaza Uche (who played Wes' brother, Derek, in Season 6) & Gus Halper (who played Will, in Season 7).
Do all brains reanimate like Dr. Edwin Jenner's wife, TS-19?
Homo Mortuus means "one who is dead". Aliza points out that it could also be a play-on-words: there is "more to us".
Aliza asks if Dr. Mosely (a.k.a. Specimen 21) was a tribute to actor Moses J. Mosely, who played one of Michonne's Pet Walkers (previously, her boyfriend Mike). Moses Mosely was tragically passed in early 2022.
Aidan's Aside: Haifaa Al-Mansour, a newcomer to the TWDU, directed this episode.
Sherrandy takes a moment to compare the poet, Emily Dickinson, and Dr. Everett by saying they are both loners who tend to not interact with the outside world.
Dave points out that the Chattahoochee River Amy mentions in this episode most likely places them somewhere in Alabama. The northern half might actually place them in West Georgia.
Aidan's Aside: While researching images for this blog, I stumbled upon a recreation of Blair Crawford's jacket for sale. If you feel like cosplaying this colorful character, click here!
Sherrandy compares the Skull Hunters to pioneers of the American West, who would hunt Buffalo for trophies.
Dave compares Everett's study of Homo Mortuus to the way he studied Justin (played by Zach McGowan) in Season 9 of TWD. The opening sequence depicts his corpse being devoured by walkers. Midway into feeding, they suddenly stopped, got up, and walked away. Watching the exact moment walkers refuse to continue feeding indicates exactly when a dead human turns, which was super exciting and fascinating to watch for the first time in this universe.
What happens when the walker population dies off?
Aidan's Aside: This conversation reminds me how Dee, in the last episode, tells Lydia, "people are chaos," and how you essentially become chaos to survive. This brought me back to one of my favorite quotes of this entire franchise by Victor Strand, "The only way to survive a mad world is to embrace the madness".
Did this episode feel as though it was truly 35 years after the fall? Does it feel like nothing has changed? Has Dr. Everett's study of Homo Mortuus truly bore fruit?
Sherrandy believes the alligator in this episode is a callback to the Fear the Walking Dead episode in Season 4 where Victor Strand and John Dorie try to cross a flooded river while avoiding an alligator attack.
Dave discusses the changes to the animal kingdom in a world ruled by the dead. Crows aren't afraid of walker scarecrows early on in Season 9 of TWD. Later on, in the same season, Negan Smith is chased by the domestic dogs that have gone feral.
In addition, Sherrandy adds that our survivors were forced to eat a pack of dogs in TWD 5x10, Them.
Bridget questions whether the Skull Hunters are really using the walker heads for propaganda. For example, Nick Clark and Troy Otto go to The Proctors market and sample a piece of hallucinogenic walker brain.
In response, Dave and Sherrandy remind us how, in FTWD S5, Annie, Max, and Dylan used the walker blockades as a scare tactic, as well.
Speaking of severed walker heads, how could we leave out Phillip "The Governor" Blake'scollection.
Dr. Everett's computer password is the chemical make up of the molecule Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA).
It reminds Bridget of Mr. DNA from the Jurassic Park franchise. Dino DNA!
Sherrandy jokes that she has mistakenly typed "TWD Lasso" instead of "Ted Lasso" before. Is the universe saying we need a crossover? [Editor's note: God, I really hope not. That would flush a feel-good show straight down the toilet as Coach Lasso will eventually have to eat Coach Beard.]
Could the Civic Republic Military be responsible for making this trench?Is everyone living under some sort of dictatorship this far into the future?
Can one even live in a civilized society, again, after having lived through a post-apocalyptic one?
Bridget proclaims #AnarchyOverIceCream: brought to you by The Commonwealth's famous Taste of Tradition ice cream shop.
Were Dr. Edwards and Dr. Mosely lovers?
What even keeps Dr. Edwards motivated to live?
What does it mean when, at the end of the episode, Dr. Everett essentially replaces Specimen 21 with Amy?
Have some of these stories, depicting characters in isolation, reminded you of the early days of the COVID-19 Pandemic lockdown measures/guidelines? We had the luxury of internet, which allowed us to maintain a semblance of human contact that these characters did not.
This is the first episode of Tales where a title characters dies.
How did Amy's death make you feel?
Aliza said that walker-Amy's interaction with Everett immediately reminded her of the way walker-John Dorie interacted with June Dorie. She felt the same way about walker-Merle Dixon, interacting with Daryl Dixon.
All the references to birds, throughout this episode, reminded Sherrandy of the Emily Dickinson poem Hope is the Thing with Feathers, which was the same exact phrase Joe wrote in one of his (printed out) online chats with Sandra/USHLDBSCRD.
Bridgett says that Dr. Everett's disassociation reminded her of the mental disorders we explored in the second episode Blair/Gina.
Could Dr. Edwards have been a scientist for the CRM?
Aidan's Aside: For those of you how don't know, Dr. Professor T Brooks Ellis was introduced in the third episode of the second season of The Walking Dead: World Beyond. However, that's not the first time we've heard his name! Eugene Porter name-drops his "old boss" Ellis in TWD 5x05, right before ultimately revealing he was never a scientist and had never even met him. That all being said, I feel like it would be awesome to see Eugene finally meet T Brooks Ellis before we say goodbye to The Walking Dead.
Isn't it fitting that Dr. Everett wears a coat made out of the skin of the dead just after the prior episode featuring the origin of The Whisperers?
What did Amy mean when she asks Dr. Everett if he was a "mule"?
Aidan's Aside: Our hosts often talk about the walker heads being used as a scare tactic in this episode. It reminds me of the border that Alpha establishes, delineated by way of our survivors loved ones heads on pikes, in the penultimate episode of The Walking Dead's ninth season. Maybe it's less of a scare tactic and more of a reminder of the potential horrors people are capable of in this world: if The Skull Hunters are chopping off walker heads, what else are they capable of doing to you?
How do you think Dr. Everett felt when he discovered the box of walker heads in the back of a truck in Amy's community's camp after all the bonding experiences he and Amy had during this episode?
Sherrandy says the poem titled We Wear the Mask, by Paul Laurence Dunbar,could be the poem that Amy is referring to after musing on Everett's undead coat of many skins.
Aidan's Aside: All of this talk about masks has me thinking how often we actually see characters wearing masks in TWDU.
Could the physical growth-rate of the animals mentioned in this episode be a side effect of the nuclear fallout and radiation that occurred in Fear the Walking Dead's 7th season?
Is one of the lessons TWDU is trying to convey that you cannot go back?
Special shoutout to Anthony Edwards, Poppy Liu, and everyone else in front of and behind the camera for this episode. Here's to hoping we haven't seen the last of Dr. Everett!
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