[Episode 158] The Walking Dead: World Beyond |2x03| Exit Wounds

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Just when #JenniferMallick thought she might have one good day, #LeoBennett comes in like a wrecking ball and turns her world beyond upside-down. Between that, the knowledge that her clemency may have come at a cost (even though she's choosing to focus on the positive), and how (by the end of it) Percy is gunning for her, it seems like Huck is beset on all sides.

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• Why Exit Wounds? Dennis' mistake causing Jennifer Mallick to leave (not just Percy Delmado's wound).
• But were Percy & Tony Delmado's lives peachy? Performers without crowds that now have an audience.
  
• Iris Bennett "treating" Percy; Percy is otherwise distracted. And every day isn't like the last.
• Hoes in other area codes: But are other settlements the exception, not the rule? And The Walking Dead: World Beyond is only a short time behind The Walking Dead (flagship show)
• Tying up poor horses and Dakota firepits. Elton Ortiz finally hauling ass (for turnips?!)
• Turns out Dave was right about Perimeter colony protecting the Civic Republic Research Facility (by way of radioactive waste warnings). Callbacks to Siddiq (by way of calling Empties "Vessels") and Elton is the Carl Grimes of the show?
• Sherrandy's amazing theory of why Omaha/Campus Colony were going to be threats to the Civic Republic Military. Dave takes it a little further.
  
• Still trying to associate Huck saving the colony dwellers during the fall (when she was a Marine). "Beauty in the darkness" (the essence of TWD World Beyond): because why focus on the negative?
• Etymology of Asha & Dev. Elton's devastation and resemblance to John Dorie (of Fear The Walking Dead).
• Empties/Vessels in the clearing were not Asha & Dev's doing and the flaw in Dennis' logic about the Culling Facilities. Filming inconsistencies.
• T. Brooks Ellis, Eugene Porter's mentor at The Human Genome Project, is Hope Bennett's professor.
  
• Parallels to the Bennett sister's asking Silas Plaskett to their party in the pilot to Mason inviting hope to the Omaha remembrance party. Hope still having flashbacks to their journey wakes her into action: seeking out Iris and Felix Carlucci.
• More hints that The Civic Republic is a string of settlements, united as one (E Pluribus Unum) and Portland's potential dark fate(?).
• Leo Bennett may not be aware of Lyla Belshaw's special lab where (walker) Dr. Samuel Abbott is kept. Hope may be on her way to figuring this out.
• At Mason's party, Omaha's symbol is placed on a "neutralization" vat: twisted. SURVIVORS tier member, Jasmine, trusts Mason.
• Second Chances: Iris might eat her words about Percy's loss and moving on; Hope might instinctually take her advice. How their father factors into this calculus.
• The significance of using Jenga as a parallel to The Civic Republic.
• It Only Takes One Night by Dum Dum Girls and it's connection to Dennis' relationship with Huck and, also, the destruction of Omaha/Campus Colony (possibly Portland). Corporal Pierce may already be monitoring Staff Sergeant Mallick's movements (how the CRM roles).
• Will Percy pull back? The Perimeter will most-likely side with Jennifer in the event of a conflict (also, Huck's corpse would mean their destruction).
• Leo's confrontation with Huck (or whatever she calls herself) speaks to something greater than getting his family back.
• Jasmine expertly follows Dr. Ellis science, whether intentionally faulty or not. Either way, he seems like a Fungi.
  

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[Episode 160] The Walking Dead: World Beyond |2x04| Family is a Four Letter Word

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Should our protagonists(?) be thinking locally or globally? Is #SilasPlaskett's allegiance going to be tested? #JenniferMallick is starting to realize that her mother, #ElizabethKublek, might actually be a monster (and that she might be one by proxy). And terrific performance by #NicholasCantu as #EltonOrtiz, this episode!

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• The wrong end of a kill-stick/telescope. Conflict in this episode and every episode gets better.
  
• What episode are we covering? Reminiscing on older SQUAWKING DEAD episode difficulties (while having current difficulties).
• [Editor's Note: we go into a conversation about how it's possible Felix Carlucci knows Percy Delmado is gunning for Jennifer Mallick/Huck, but we know why because both he and Elton Ortiz must've caught everyone up]
• Huck's world is crashing around her as she's realizing how much bad she's responsible for. The same may be applied to Lt. Col. Elizabeth Kublek.
• Our theory about both Portland being in Texas (not Oregon, ties into Fear The Walking Dead nicely) and Major General Beale being Jadis/Anne are seemingly both incorrect. Is Rick Grimes Mr. Beale?!
• Even Dave is having trouble covering for Iris Bennett, but notes the contrast of her character against others (especially Percy).
  
• You hate in others what you hate in yourself: Dave strikes at the heart of why Rachael, in particular (but perhaps #TWDFamily, as well), wouldn't like Iris. We know far too much the cost of standing on principle in #TWDUniverse.
• Watching Iris and Hope Bennett part ways was difficult. Remembering that Bennetts are teenagers (ergo: not thinking things through). Iris might be "butthurt" over not being chosen by the Civic Republic Military - or, at least, not used to Hope not being in her shadow. Things would've been worse if they would've chosen Iris (or, at least, not as interesting).
• We're here for Dennis & Silas Plaskett's relationship. Maximilian Osinski's body would destroy Hal Cumpston's. The Culling & Maintenance kids' "training ground" is a post-apocalyptic video game.
  
  
• Hope & Silas' path forward might be difficult. Silas, in light of this newfound family, and Hope, with the possibility of the cure. The only way out is through? Both Hope & Iris think locally and globally, in their own way.
• It's entirely possibly that one or the other sister might die and what that might mean for the greater #TWDUniverse; Mason's Master Controller (him stepping a little out of bounds) might be useful for Hope if she joins the effort to wreck the CRM; and Portland's fate is still unclear, but Hope knows more about the CRM today than she did yesterday, and it might mess with her.
• Speaking of Mason, it seems like he's dipping his toes in both camps: clearly has access to things and does what he's told, but steps out of bounds here and there. Mason Belshaw? Mason General Beale?
• Silas divulges to Dennis the reason why he tries to leave the Culling & Maintenance Outpost, but understanding Dennis imparts some sage wisdom. It is still unclear whether Dennis knows the killer whom Silas is referencing (Huck), but ostensibly does not appear he's aware. We need to interview Max.
• Pulling some cool information off of Indira's insulin bottle. Why it's important that others, like Brody, don't know she's ill (at least at this stage); parallel with Hope's childhood trauma (the irony of Elton discovering this). Dave's imagination runs wild; Fused walker in the Culling & Maintenance facility; Scott M. Gimple makes cast-members paranoid (and his spoilers suck).
  

  
• Deconstructing the plethora of sources spurring Elton's panic attack.
• Say what we all will about characters that we're having trouble digesting, they are nudging the conflict, so it's not all bad: Iris may actually be a psychopath while Percy becomes the responsible one?!
• Ithaca, NY: where The Walking Dead: World Beyond's story ends. Is the Civic Republic one large city or a Confederation of settlements? Or both? The Civic Republic/The Commonwealth aware of one another?
• Picking more bones: Leaving the Perimeter's armory unlocked.
• The necessity of seeing (is believing) Daniel and Margaret fishing Huck our of the river in Omaha: Even Huck saved some people. Remembering Huck's father, Mr. Mallick, and what he represents to both Kublek and Huck. The significance of seeing Jennifer give herself her scar in both Season 1 and Season 2. Symmetry between Silas and Hucks scars/wounds: remembering. Huck & Dennis are married?

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[Episode 159] Season 7, Episode 2 of Fear The Walking Dead, "Six Hours"

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We're starting to notice this season, along with the darker turn the continuation of the anthology-style storytelling has taken, even the "everything gets a return" motif becomes twisted. Even though #GraceMukherjee seems to overcome her obstacles and things turn out ok for her and #MorganJones (and lil-Mo) by the end of the episode, it's just barely!

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• Baby Morgan's annoying cries. Sherrandy makes Dave spit his drink
• But didn't Grace Mukherjee kill Fred? leaving her, Bea, to "spend whatever time she has left" with whom...?
  
• June Dorie is perfect. Right? Right. Uh...
  
• Morgan Jones quickly relives his beginning's end (a la the pilot episode of The Walking Dead).
• Timelines: Uh, so when are we...?
• Similarities between episode 5x10, "210 Words per Minute"
• Why we need Robert Kirkman to voice all the characters when he finally makes the audio books.
• Grace rides a pinto of a vastly different color.
• "I’m right here" Grace is a far darker mirror of Morgan.
• The 200-mile fallout radius and weather patterns carrying it all the way to Louisiana: why that makes our heart sink.
  
• Sherrandy theorizes the nuclear events on Fear The Walking Dead predicate The Civic Republic Military's actions against Campus Colony / Omaha's genocide, today. Why it also might be Portland, Texas, not Portland, Oregon.
  
  
• Maps of meaning: retracing why the bombs landed the way they did and why it means something that the CRM didn't do anything about it.
  
  
• Morgan chose poorly: Dave's aforementioned scenario of possibly putting Grace above the group had happened, already (when he gave Riley the nuclear submarine key under Grace's "advisement")
• Food under floor panels, like Connie's stash in Episode 9x13 of TWD. Where are the sub keys, now?
• Meeting Josiah LaRoux, Emile LaRoux’s twin, and his Shovel Pick. Fickle Rufus...
• Beta Burns: a never-ending, painful sunburn.
• Grace’s indomitable patience with Baby Mo's constant crying. Baby Mo crawling (at about 6-9 months) gives us a possible timeline marker.
  
• Frustration: Fred shoots the can of powdered milk, exposing the contents. Why the hazmat suits are only partial protection.
• Baby Please Forgive Me, Grace Tennessee as the other Grace is trying to put baby Mo to sleep the first time: can't help thinking about the loss of Athena.
• Cabin on the Hill, Flatt & Scruggs and Foggy Mountain Boys. Earl Skruggs was born where Sherrandy lives. Plays just after Morgan comes back from his stint outside and Grace is waking up after a nap. This song leads us to believe that Grace is dreaming of Athena.
• I'll Put That Gambling Down, Reggie Taylor. Plays just as Grace & Morgan leave the sub. Might be alluding to Morgan's "this time it'll be different" and "we can fix it" attitude. If Morgan was a gambler though...
• Victor Strand wants everyone to see what he’s built, but might show them the door or, worse, the roof afterwards...
• Untie the Ribbon, Wanda Johnson. Lyrics. Plays the very next scene after they leave the sub, driving through the night. Foreshadows Grace's equally bad choices of enduring or abandoning Morgan & Baby Mo.
• It’s time to quit crying, Frank Fafara. Editor's note: haunting, but beautiful. Plays in the aftermath, as they leave Bea, signaling Grace's decision to end her mourning and accepting her brokenness and the brokenness around her.
• Grace sings to Baby Mo: discussing the authenticity of that moment by way of Rachael's personal life. Dave actually proves he can connect with an animal via a touching and personal story.
• Old dog Rufus, not really helping with the crying baby situation...
• Though we all want what's best for Baby Mo, and the best that we know of might be Strand's palace, we all enjoyed Grace turning down Howard's offer, because of what it means.

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The Walking Dead: The Ones Who Live |1x05| Become

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We always say The Walking Dead Universe allows you to be the person you were meant to be. This episode spotlights what The Walking Dead: The Ones Who Live has been trying to show us the entire time: The Walking Dead Universe allows couples to Become what they were meant to be, too, in all their unique forms. Jadis had her day and - with the help of Father Gabriel Stokes - Anne Stokes found grace.

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• The Walking Dead: The Ones Who Live is doing so well, it's being advertised on Smart TVs!
• Why we didn't receive screeners for the final two episodes: Father Gabriel's Return! We had just talked about Suddenly Seth in our Instagram group chat, last week, with a bunch of attendees of The Camp. Seth Gilliam's nickname is derived from the several amount of times we've seen him just show up (like God, he's everywhere) at conventions and around Senoia, GA, but never officially invited as a guest.
  
  
  
• Video Game Adaptations to TV and Movies: There's a character in Fallout whose background story is eerily similar to that of Father Gabriel's (and Fallout came out first). We go into why video game adaptations were classically bad and why they're starting to be good now: obviously The Last of Us on HBO and touching on the TV series Halo on Paramount+ a bit, as well.
• The Execution of Father Gabriel's Introduction: Sherrandy loved the way they cinematically introduced Gabriel, from starting at his feet, the crunching of the leaves as he stepped, and the silhouette that kept you guessing. Beats introducing another new character they're just going to kill off in the same episode.
  
  
  
• The Tracking of Ramen Wrappers and Dead Walkers: Though we loved Pollyanna McIntosh's performance this episode, Sherrandy's suspension of disbelief did not extend to being able to track Rick Grimes & Michonne via slain walkers and Tasteful Noods ramen wrappers. We chalk it up to Richonne's carefreeness. It's also somewhat of a parallel to Hope Bennett leaving a trail for Felix Carlucci and Jennifer "Huck" Mallick to follow at the very beginning of The Walking Dead: World Beyond.
  
  
  
• Appreciating World Beyond Flashbacks: because some of us really loved that limited series and the flashes to Anne "Jadis" Stokes' confidant, Huck, was validating.
  
  
  
• The Tension Between Maintaining Your Own Humanity and Saving Humanity: It's something Dave brought up in the last episode, to blank stares (mostly). The show further explores the possibility that maintaining one's own humanity might come at the expense of future generations. Rachael chimes in that one can certainly do both, which is what Michonne says out loud to Anne when the latter asks if they are going to leave The Civic Republic Military be. This is also something that came up, frequently, during our World Beyond Season One recap with Brains Gone Bad and Aim for the Head podcast.
  
  
  
• The Last Light and Portland: It seems unfathomable to Sherrandy that the Civic Republic would stand up to the CRM, once the truth of what they've done is revealed, since the military has all this might. Dave asks and answers his own question: what would be the point of wiping out The CR, unless they had a backup plan in the form of Portland, whom they are now dangerously close to (even though the kids in World Beyond have probably already warned them that they are moving against them). Or smaller settlements, sure. The point is, that would rid The CRM of the CR.
  
  
  
• The Beauty of Jadis' Story and Redemption: Watching Anne's story with Gabriel and Richonne taking her first/final confession was moving. When she finally admits that she should've died an artist, while showing flashbacks of her making art in the heaps and zooming in on the portraits of hers she commissioned for Maggie Rhee took us all emotionally by surprise. It's relatable: the struggle of working hard to make amends and taking the easy way out and doubling-down. It's easy to forget her story arc, especially a character who is not in the comic book.
  
  
  
• Lighthearted Moments with Rick and Michonne: Touching again on their care-free nature, this episode. Rick is making up for lost time by wanting to get souvenirs for the kids, replacing the 'M' pendant she lost, and preparing the booze for later.
  

  The “M” necklace
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• Gabriel and Anne Stokes: Thus begins the great debate over the depths of their connection. Dave heavily argues, effectively, that near the end of the flashbacks with he and she, that he married her (and she accepted). Bridget merely thinks he has love for her, especially within the context of them bonding over how they the sort of outcasts of our group of survivors in Season 9 of The Walking Dead. Rachael sort of thinks the same and breaks even with Gabriel being in love with Anne, but not so much the reverse. Sherrandy thinks the kiss between them was more of a goodbye to what might've been. Sherrandy brings up a good question: how did they even find each other? Dave responds: they both were visiting the spot where Rick met his "demise" on the anniversary of its occurrence and decided to meet each other there on an annual basis.

  

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• Gabriel and Rosita Espinosa: credit to Takeerah's spoiler-ridden live tweeting of this episode at 3am, she suggested that this may have been the reason why Gabe felt he could no longer be with Rosita by the time they made it to The Commonwealth.
  

  I guess we finally know why Gabe and Rosita were broken up in season 11 #theoneswholive

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• The Importance of Choice, but Rolling It Back: Even though she was so close to staying and being her true self with Gabriel, Anne pulls away and commits to upholding the last light with The CRM; however, making that choice means having to waste Father Gabriel. In the end, she doesn't do that, which is a reciprocation of Gabriel gesture of faith and love in the form of what would've been Rick's wedding ring to Michonne.
  
  
  
• Rick and Michonne Weren't Married, but It Doesn't Really Matter: Gabriel informs the audience that Michonne and Rick were never actually married. Everyone agrees that marriage in the zombie apocalypse just means being together and surviving. Dave only brings this up because a certain contingent of fans has suffered severe online harassment when anyone seems to make this distinction. Why Dave even brings this up in the first place is that, as podcasters, these are the kinds of distinctions we try our best to get right; however, on top of it not really being that important, the harassment we've seen has been a factor in why we've never broached the topic.
  
  
  
• Handfasting and A Marriage in Two Phases in Judaism: This was a great opportunity to discuss beautiful alternatives to contemporary marriages, based on ancient traditions.
• Hell is Repeating We Can Do Anything: Sherrandy revisits the trauma (a la Fear The Walking Dead's final season) of telling the audience, repeatedly, what Richonne is capable of (spoiler alert: everything). Dave thinks the writers are intentionally getting you to doubt them, especially when you consider the bittersweet lyrics of Tony Bennett's The Good Life playing in the background in the scene following the title sequence: the song basically alludes that nothing good lasts. The Walking Dead Universe often finds a way to make that happen.
  
  
  
• Beautiful Storytelling and The Fragility of Survival: Rachael praises Michael Satrazemis' ability to direct a great story. Dovetailing from nothing good lasts and we can do anything, will Rick falter once he sees The Echelon Briefing? It seems like even strong-willed 'A's like Command Sergeant Major Pearl Thorne fall in line once they do. Moreover, the way the camera zoomed in on Anne's portrait of Glenn Rhee, TWD's heart, might be foreshadowing tragedy. Through much childish laughter, Rachael also thinks the geysers around Yellowstone National Park are a foreshadowing of pressure being built up that will explode in the next episode.
  
  
  
• Calcified Walkers and Gorgeous Cinematography: One thing we know Satrazemis is great at is incorporating great b-roll and thoughtful shots into the narrative to create excellent visual storytelling. All of it reminds Dave of his younger days, traveling the countryside and sleeping under the stars on top of a picnic table near Green River. Sherrandy ties this to The Last of Us when Joel Miller finally reunites with his brother, Tommy Miller, in Jackson. The appearance and explanation of the calcified walkers (a product of their environment) was such a treat.
  
  
  
• They Were Lucky: Michonne muses on their encounter with the three survivors on Three Pines Trail and how not only how one of them managed to get caught in a snare, but why she and Rick aren't more cautious. Dave thinks that these people may have belonged to either Omaha or Campus Colony and were lucky enough to be away from it when the CRM destroyed it. Rachael immediately thought of Carl Grimes and how, even after all these years, walkers can get you with a single bite. We also absolutely loved Will Brill's humor in his role as Dalton, one of the three survivors (accompanied by Red and Tina), who peed himself when faced with the possibility of retribution for trying to take all of Richonne's stuff.
  
  
  
• Clearing Up Timeline Confusion:
• The opening scene deliberately contained no time signifier to keep you guessing as to whether Jadis actually enacted her contingency. In reality, it is She and Gabriel's initial encounter 5 years after the bridge collapse (and Rick's departure from TWD). The tell is Gabriel's facial hair.
• Gabe mentions the ham radio: which isn't the super-powered one that Eugene Porter uses to maintain contact with Stephanie (Maxxine Mercer) throughout TWD Season 10, but the initial iteration Gabriel himself finds in Season 8 with Harlan Carson.
• The people Michonne is trying to help resettle at The Hilltop are Yumiko Okumura, Connie, Kelly, Magna, and Luke Abrams.
• All of the prior points relates to the 3 years ago meet-up, all of which are fine. This is where things become confusing. In the 2 years ago meet-up, Gabriel says, The group we were in conflict with [THE WHISPERERS], they compromised our walls. Food is scarce. Children are hungry [The very end of The Whisperers War, moving into the bonus episodes of Season 10]. He then he proceeds to ask for help, which causes Jadis to check-out, he apologizes, and gives her the ring. Dave lays out several reasons why this time placement is wrong (the long time span from the first encounter of The Whisperers all the way until the Beta's demise at the end of the war was definitely more than a year, plus the ages of Coco Espinosa, Judith Grimes and RJ Grimes), but the most airtight evidence was when Michonne left, which amidst the final throes of the conflict and took a year to recuperate from the Chlorine Gas. Even the most generous interpretation of events doesn't place what Gabriel describes as happening two years ago, but one year ago.
• Had he not mentioned it there, and said that they were starving in the One Year Ago meet-up, it not only would've been correct, but would've heightened the tension when Jadis pulls a gun on Gabriel to tie up a loose end after he loses his cool and asks for help once more.
• Redditor u/DeadCalamari1, loosely supports some of what Dave is saying in their own Reddit post:
  

  TOWL and Here's Negan contradict eachother on the timeline.
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• Satrazemis' Love Letter to FearTWD: The Three Pines gift shop was eerily reminiscent of McNeill's Bait and Beer (what Sherrandy refers to as Bill's - Bill McNeill) which had several mounted fish which reminded us of the singing Big Mouth Billy Bass that John Dorie had in Season 4. The whole place had a take what you need, leave what you don't vibe that we got from that series.
  
  
  
• Yellowstone National Park and Here's Why You're Wrong: After ribbing Dave for saying that Three Pines Trail/Cabins/Gift Shop was near Yellowstone in Wyoming, he discovered that it makes complete sense and provided a map with annotations for the final edit of the episode. One interesting tidbit is that Yellowstone is just north of Bridger-Teton National Forest, which is reminiscent of Bridgers Terminal in New Jersey, which is all a play on Rick's final moments on TWD.
  
  
  
• It Could've Ended Here(?): Save for (arguably) Episode 3, almost every single episode in the series was a film unto itself and could've ended the season/series. Dave disagrees though because, like the geyser, there is too much build-up to not want the next episode. It is definitely an example of another cool thing each episode did: the episodes were constructed in a way where the end of each episode could've happened somewhere near the end, but just kept going to give us more great story.
  
  
  
• Blessing This Marriage in Advance: Gabriel's yearly pilgrimage to the site where Rick "met his demise" was a holy one. He was making holy water from the waters that would've been beneath the bridge. If the ring is a symbol of faith and love, and we know prayer starts with intent, then Father Gabriel blessed their union way ahead of the ring reaching Michonne's finger.
• Will it Wrap-up in Six Episodes? Bridget expressed tremendous doubt while Dave reminds everyone that the other spin-offs somewhat managed to do so while adequately setting up their already announced Sophomore Seasons.

  

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• Anne's Death Parallels Huck's: Michonne manages to drive an axe into Jadis' side, similar to how Jadis shivved Huck's side during their final fight in World Beyond.
• Saving The People From the People: This prescient National Parks sign's message plays out, in its various forms, throughout the entire episode, most notably in the way it foreshadows Richonne's decision to inform The CR (the people) of The CRM's dark machinations.
  
  
  
• Red's Red Gun: Even the look of Red's janky colored red gun was humorous. We (really don't, but it's funny to) think they somehow found the bucket of nail polish the kids used in World Beyond to power the raft they constructed to cross the Mississippi.
  
  
  
• Looking After Oneself: Along with the toothpaste and Jadis waking up the lovebirds up like Paul "Jesus" Rovia did in Season 6, these nods are a great entry point into the overall sentiment it tried to impart on our survivors, which is how you can't save everyone. You can try to leave no man behind, but sometimes you have to prioritize saving yourself. Michonne, in particular, tried to impart this wisdom to Heath and he learned it in the hardest way possible in the very same episode. It also reminds us of a great conversation that we had with Benjamin Scotford of Just Keep Walking podcast. But, in the end, what does it all mean? Are they telling us that one of them will be forced to save themselves?
  
  
  
• Sippin' Whisky While the World Starves: We enjoyed the good life Rick & Michonne were having, but the 3 survivors they meet are a reminder of the state of folks out in the wild. It transported us back to One More (TWD 10x19), wherein a tipsy (ironically enough) Father Gabriel and Aaron were drinking Duane Jones whiskey just before they meet Mays, who is an excellent reflection of the state of people who are out there for a little too long.
  
  
  
• Jadis' Already Has A Day: the transliteration (from Old French) of Jadis name. Today was that day: the very day that she and Father Gabriel we supposed to meet was where she met her maker(s). The end result, though, is that she left this world fused with all her selves and finally became who she truly was meant to be.
  
  
  

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[Episode 173] The Walking Dead: World Beyond |SERIES FINALE| The Last Light

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We laughed, we cried, and we learned something along the way. #ThankYou: to you, the fans, who have stuck with us throughout this journey and gotten so much out of our conversations; to #MattNegrete and all the cast and crew who made this incredible show possible. In this, the last episode/light, we take a closer look at the symmetry in #Jadis & #SilasPlaskett's respective journeys, as well as the yin-yang parallel of how Silas somewhat ended up in the same place as the start of the series. We also reflect on the satisfying, yet unfinished ending that is both life, in general, and #TWDWB's end.

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• Watch the DAVE REACTS to Fear The Walking Dad's Midseason Finale, The Walking Dead: World Beyond's Series Finale, and Talking Dead announcing Madison Clark's return:
• Thank You, Matt Negrete and all cast & crew involved in creating/executing this show.
• The show never confirmed that Perimeter Colony are the folks Jennifer Mallick saved as a Marine in Middletown, NY.
• Even though the series asks more questions than gives you closure by the end of it, it's still fairly satisfying. As Elton Ortiz says, "Maybe there is no ending or beginning."
• Last episode, we had said the higher-ups in the Civic Republic Military know that what they are doing will make it so they are tried for war crimes and, case in point, Lt. Col. Elizabeth Kublek is on trial... but not for that.
• Though it feels like our little group didn't really have an impact, they saved Portland.
• Silas Plaskett is alone in the end, like he started, only now he's a hero. 
• Will we see these characters in the Rick Grimes movie(s)? There’s a lot of room for them to appear throughout The Walking Dead Universe franchise.
• Maybe the PPP card (Tara Chambler found when Heath disappeared) was a first draft CRM logo?
• On top of the Felix Carlucci & Lt. Frank Newton fight scene being incredibly satisfying, it was also supremely homoerotic. An honorable mention goes to Robert Palmer Watkins' crotch.
  
  
• Felix and Will Campbell get married (tattooed wedding bands).
• Huck should have known her intel caused the downfall of Omaha/Campus Colony; then again, she might've only acted surprised in order to tie up Warrant Officer Jadis Stokes long enough to explode the gas.
• Much like Negan, Jadis a very entertaining character you love to hate, leaning into her badness like Victor Strand.
• What pre-apocalypse Jadis might've looked like.
  
• Maximilian Osinski's Austrian accent slips, delivering lines as Agent Dennis. The father/son bond between Dennis and Silas parallels what Silas had to do to his biological father.
• What Jadis actually sees in Silas.
• Brief discussion on weird names like "Rachael" and "Sherrandy"
• Leo Bennet bringing the gun/smoke show. We'll forever see romance between he and Indira in our heads.
• Anna Khaja and Indira’s one-second hourglass.

  To better see the time she has left?

  — Sherrandy 🔥 #BelieveInJune (@BlazyGardener) December 1, 2021

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• MON 26: the present date on Huck's father's watch. Sherrandy theorizes that the night the sky fell must have been September of 2008
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• What will Portland do knowing their kids are effectively kidnapped by the CR? Will they even believe Iris et al?
• The unanswered questions, alone, might spawn more spin-offs.
• The Walking Dead ARM-my: Alicia Clark, Elton, Aaron, and Virginia.
  Editors note: I shook my head as I typed that last line, but what is done cannot be undone... 
• Elton stabs us (but mostly Dave) right in the feels with his - the show's - final monologue:
• There was a time when I thought I was gonna die - that we were all gonna die - because I believed we were the last generation. The Endlings.
• And then for a while, I thought we were the beginning. But that ignores everything that came before - everyone who came before.
• What I know for sure is that there's a lot that's tough about the world - a lot that's harder than I ever thought it could be. Those things have left their mark on us - on all of us - in ways I never could've expected.
• I also know there's a lot that's good - that's beautiful. A lot that brings me hope.
• But maybe there is no beginning? Maybe there's no end? Maybe there just is - and "is" is whatever we make it, because really we don't get to know.
• There's no perfect modelling - no way to predict if today is the last day - if the world lasts a year or two or forever. Maybe all we get to know is now.
• And whether we make a small mark on this world or we change it entirely, it's really about those little pieces of now that get us there - those small steps that move us forward, keep us growing and evolving. Because all of those moments put together: that's a life - and that's everything.
• "So let's see who we really are, shall we?"

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